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france has not "given its nation away," it's stayed true to the concept of what france is about: liberty, equality, brotherhood. kudos for them.

 

And it back fired in their faces....kudos? Bullshit. Wake up.

granting people as nearly unrestricted liberty as safety allows ensures terrorism will occur with some frequency - shit, even despotic nations can't completely wipe out the tendency for angry hair-less monkeys to do hair-brained shit

 

not just soldiers die for our liberties - civilians die all the time b/c some fool decides to abuse his liberty to own a gun, drive a car, have a drink, etc.

 

france will have failed if, in the wake of this attack, they fall back on their historical tendency to impose a police state and start persecuting members of unfavored groups willy-nilly

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Facebook posts you don't agree with? Herd them into the camps!

 

No Choada Boy, i'm way out in front of you on this. FUCK THE CAMPS!!!!! Any person that is down with ISIS should be killed.

 

No gitmo, no trial, no bullshit! These are enemy combatants and should be treated as such. Give them the Virgins.

 

For every tard on the left there is a tard on the right.

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The democrat party has a problem on their hands, no one believes global warming causes terrorism.

 

QED, you are wrong, since you accuse at least one person of thinking so :crazy:

 

the causes of terrorism are necessarily complex - generally high stress-levels in society is clearly a major cause, and economic conditions in a community too, and both of these are easily effected by climate, whether you care to notice it or not.

 

Fair enough, someone believes in the spaghetti god too.

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france has not "given its nation away," it's stayed true to the concept of what france is about: liberty, equality, brotherhood. kudos for them.

 

And it back fired in their faces....kudos? Bullshit. Wake up.

granting people as nearly unrestricted liberty as safety allows ensures terrorism will occur with some frequency - shit, even despotic nations can't completely wipe out the tendency for angry hair-less monkeys to do hair-brained shit

 

not just soldiers die for our liberties - civilians die all the time b/c some fool decides to abuse his liberty to own a gun, drive a car, have a drink, etc.

 

france will have failed if, in the wake of this attack, they fall back on their historical tendency to impose a police state and start persecuting members of unfavored groups willy-nilly

 

I'll take liberty and risk. It's a fair trade compared the emotional crying coming from the far left and far right.

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The democrat party has a problem on their hands, no one believes global warming causes terrorism.

 

QED, you are wrong, since you accuse at least one person of thinking so :crazy:

 

the causes of terrorism are necessarily complex - generally high stress-levels in society is clearly a major cause, and economic conditions in a community too, and both of these are easily effected by climate, whether you care to notice it or not.

 

Fair enough, someone believes in the spaghetti god too.

 

Civil war in Syria started after a prolonged drought, and people moving to the cities, unable to provide for their families. Actually, the climate was the catalyst for the situation.

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climate's just one of several casus belli's, and not necessarily the most important of the lot - nor too can climate change per se be blamed for the war

 

no single storm or drought or weather phenomenon can be directly linked to global warming - it's like the era of heavy steroid use in baseball - no individual homerun that was hit was caused by the drugs, but sweet jesus, the much higher volume of balls leaving the park overall was :)

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WWNDGTD?

 

did he not look high, high, high throughout most every episode of cosmos? :)

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Major burn victim. He'd sit in his spaceship and dive into a wormhole, blazed out of his mind. How fun is that?

 

Oh yeah, ISIS is bad. Discuss.

 

How to make 20,000 terrorists at a time: follow Herr Eric's shitty advice. Great propaganda for ISIS. American's execute Muslims without trial. Not so great propaganda? America treats its enemies with the same dignity and respect that it reserves for its own.

 

Caught a little about the "Spymasters" doc. Patreus is way against torture and "enhanced interrogation". It only makes enemies. Best way to get intel was to be their best friend.

 

ISIS' narrative is "America is bad". If we act morally, our actions will refute the narrative. If we act immorally, we cannot refute the narrative.

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The democrat party has a problem on their hands, no one believes global warming causes terrorism.

 

QED, you are wrong, since you accuse at least one person of thinking so :crazy:

 

the causes of terrorism are necessarily complex - generally high stress-levels in society is clearly a major cause, and economic conditions in a community too, and both of these are easily effected by climate, whether you care to notice it or not.

 

Fair enough, someone believes in the spaghetti god too.

 

Civil war in Syria started after a prolonged drought, and people moving to the cities, unable to provide for their families. Actually, the climate was the catalyst for the situation.

 

Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

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Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

wasn't it promoted by every human being who hoped the middle-east could be more than a collection of despots?

 

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Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

wasn't it promoted by every human being who hoped the middle-east could be more than a collection of despots?

 

No, I don't think so. The Arab spring was a fundamentalist uprising supported by groups the world intelligence communities considered terrorist organizations. The Arab spring movement became ISIS. The naive American news outlets seemed to espouse the virtues of revolution in the Middle East without paying much attention who was behind it. Naturally the Obama administration, and Clinton by extension, would have you think "climate change" is behind the Arab spring otherwise Obama would have to own his failed foreign policy. Much the same way Obama, and Clinton, wanted to blame Benghazi on a Youtube video.

 

 

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Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

 

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Ironic considering the unending blame placed on Bush. Now that Obama actually has a record, and in his second term, people who were eager to blame everything on Bush are blaming youtube videos, global warming, and inanimate objects on the incontrovertible failures of the Obama administration. There are plenty of problems in this country that aren't Obama's fault but foreign policy and national security are specifically the administration's responsibility.

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Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

wasn't it promoted by every human being who hoped the middle-east could be more than a collection of despots?

 

No, I don't think so. The Arab spring was a fundamentalist uprising supported by groups the world intelligence communities considered terrorist organizations. The Arab spring movement became ISIS. The naive American news outlets seemed to espouse the virtues of revolution in the Middle East without paying much attention who was behind it. Naturally the Obama administration, and Clinton by extension, would have you think "climate change" is behind the Arab spring otherwise Obama would have to own his failed foreign policy. Much the same way Obama, and Clinton, wanted to blame Benghazi on a Youtube video.

 

your assertion would seem far less silly if, in fact, tunisia, libya & egypt were currently isis hot spots - they ain't.

 

you seem to have this climate change thing deep in your teeth.

 

 

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Civil war in Syria started after the Arab spring...promoted by Obama.

wasn't it promoted by every human being who hoped the middle-east could be more than a collection of despots?

 

No, I don't think so. The Arab spring was a fundamentalist uprising supported by groups the world intelligence communities considered terrorist organizations. The Arab spring movement became ISIS. The naive American news outlets seemed to espouse the virtues of revolution in the Middle East without paying much attention who was behind it. Naturally the Obama administration, and Clinton by extension, would have you think "climate change" is behind the Arab spring otherwise Obama would have to own his failed foreign policy. Much the same way Obama, and Clinton, wanted to blame Benghazi on a Youtube video.

 

your assertion would seem far less silly if, in fact, tunisia, libya & egypt were currently isis hot spots - they ain't.

 

you seem to have this climate change thing deep in your teeth.

 

 

ISIL/ISIS by its very name is centralized in Iraq and Syria. Libya has some ISIS factions but they had their own fundies deposing Daffy. Egypt's military interdicted. Tunisia seems to be the only country to have some stability besides Egypt without the major organized military. Point being the destabilization gave rise to the fundamentalists. While Obama applauded regime change he seriously underestimated what would happen after. Much the same way he underestimated what would happen in Iraq if we simply left as they requested. It's all the same failed foreign policy. But no, not everyone supported the Arab spring.

 

Climate change really is not related, I can't help that our inept president decided to adopt it as his excuse d'jour. Instead of recognizing actual causes of problems that is what Obama ran with. Vote differently next time if you don't like that I speak to his points.

 

 

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Here's what gave rise to the fundamentalists: 454 cubic inches of Detroit Muscle!! Dual Quad carburetors, four on the floor, and a positraction rear end. This baby passes everything but a gas station. A gas station with gas refined from cheap Saudi oil. Saudi Arabia, that is, the single most fucked up fundamentalist regime in the world. Rocking it in F-16s. Leading the world in beheadings.

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Guys. You excited about your next prez???

 

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I'm betting he can make a reality TV show out of all of this and make bank $$$$$$$.

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Point being the destabilization gave rise to the fundamentalists. While Obama applauded regime change he seriously underestimated what would happen after. Much the same way he underestimated what would happen in Iraq if we simply left as they requested. It's all the same failed foreign policy. But no, not everyone supported the Arab spring.

destabilization is inevitable in a dictatorship - the despot can only keep the balls of crazy in the air for so long

 

to stay in a man's country after he asks you to leave is unconscionable, especially after your presence was the principal cause of a civil war beyond anything our country has ever experienced - while you may not have agreed w/ the masses, the majority of americans did in fact want us out of iraq - obama campaigned on it and no one who voted for him expected anythign else

 

there is no foreign policy that's going to make this monkey show any less fucked - staying out of this situation as much as possible was the logical and correct choice - what would you have proposed we do differently over the past 5 years and what realistically do you think would have been the result?

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"If my aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle"

 

Good luck with the excuse "it was bound to happen anyway".

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