David_Parker Posted October 2, 2001 Author Share Posted October 2, 2001 I'm with Eric. It's total BS that the officer wouldn't give his name or ID. What does he have to hide? Well I'll tell you. Maybe he's a poser. He sure was an asshole. With an attitude like that he should be a Seattle cop and take care of real crime, not a ranger harrasing the general public and singling out climbers for victimless crime. I've met a lot af rangers in my day because whenever I see one I go out of my way to talk to them. Most are cool and are out there because they love the wilderness too. I have to think they too think this fee shit is BS and would admit it "off the record". Ticketing the 2 guys in the van waiting for us was wrong. In fact I will say it was dicrimination against climbers. If Aunt Sally and Uncle Dick from Spokane on vacation in Leavenworth were sitting in their Lincoln Town Car waiting to meet someone, I don't think Larry would give them a ticket. These guys did not enter the wilderness and therefore didn't really "use" the parking lot. From what I can tell from the Arizona case, you have to park your car AND use the wilderness to go into the realm where you need a pass. If you don't have a pass, then the officer needs to prove you were in the wilderness (for non-religeous purposes) AND (not or) the car in the parking lot is uneqivocally yours. I can also say that while Larry harassed John about is "alledged" invalid pass, John was as polite as anyone could possibly be. He did not raise his voice or express anger. Larry came at him with vinegar and John stuck with the honey. Larry seems to be on a crusade and quite possibly this is not representative of what higher authorities in the Forest Service want. Larry harrassed climbers and harassment in any way, shape or form is unacceptable. I too will file a complaint. Eric, I need the beta on where to send it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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