Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 The root cause is the job's are available. . . Tell me Fairweather do you wave misspelled signs at the WWF matches that you attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Reagan started the amnesty train when he signed into law the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act, which effectively pardoned 3.2 million illegals. The PTB's want illegal immigration and the pols just do what their paid to do. The PTB's want a cheap labor force, they've even dumped crop prices to put Mexican farmers out of business. The root cause is the job's are available, it would be much easier to control immigration by regulating employers but they won't do that. Tell me Fairweather do you wave misspelled signs at the WWF matches that you attend? Reagan signed a bill into law that was put on his desk by Congress. Tu comprendes la diferencia, amigo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yea, the man's action is such a fluke: Pres. Dwight Eisenhower: 1956 By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S. 1956-1958 By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate. 1959-72 By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF] Pres. Gerald Ford: 1975 By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate. 1976 By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate. Pres. Ronald Reagan: 1981 By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate. 1982 Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate. 1987 By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans. 1987 By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR] George H.W. Bush: 1989 By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students. 1989 By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese. 1990 By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children. 1991 By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees. 1992 By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans. George W. Bush: 2002 By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military. 2005 By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina. 2006 By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies. 2007 By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 i admit i've been a bit bewildered about the executive action bickering of late - they're as old as washington - lincoln created an executive action called the emancipation proclamation and it's rather well remembered these days, no? can we just go to a parliamentarian system? kills the executive action problem, plus it reduces the length of the election process (and thus some of the importance of money) n' gives you more than the limited shitty rich-left or rich-right party options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jim, I don't see anything even close to Obama's order on your list. In any event, the courts will decide soon enough. And the last mid-term already provided a preview of the American public's "enthusiasm" regarding this issue. So there's that. I understand that libtards, generally speaking, don't like the very concept of the nation-state. So it stands to reason that they stand behind their dictator-in-waiting re open borders. And it doesn't hurt their political map either, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Reagan signed a bill into law that was put on his desk by Congress. Tu comprendes la diferencia, amigo? Bi partisan congress passed the bill. Reagan supported it. "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," Ronald Reagan The bill as initially proposed had provisions to go after employers that hired illegals. But that language was gutted by the lobbying efforts of institutions like the conservative US Chamber of Commerce. The Repugs will fix the immigrant problem just like they will fix the abortion issue, IOW NEVER. Both are token issues that low IQ voters go for. If fixed then these reasons to vote for Repugs would go away. Actually the Repugs support illegals for 3 reasons. 1 cheap labor, 2 implementation of the NAU, 3 support of the divide and conquer strategy. The illegals are a good scapegoat for the propagandized low IQ to blame when the 1% rapes and pillages the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Did YOU also vote against the 87 billion until you voted FOR it, Alpine-Kindergarten? You know you are [img:center]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Txw5DH1el-g/VC2MJPyzQMI/AAAAAAAAC-U/rGJRBq4RN00/w960-h650/10015655_740129782688172_8075936748441484804_n.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 i admit i've been a bit bewildered about the executive action bickering of late - they're as old as washington - lincoln created an executive action called the emancipation proclamation and it's rather well remembered these days, no? Yes, but it took the 13th and, later, the 15th Amendments to codify his actions. In other words, a process. This was particularly important given the cynicism of Lincoln's order--freeing slaves in southern states he did not control at the time, and granting waivers to the union states of Deleware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri. Hypocricy, IMO. In short, executive whim is no way to run a democracy. Wasn't then; isn't now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 executive whim seems fine, in this example, so long as it ultimately results in changes in law or constitution - like greasing the pump i reckon - lincoln needed 3 years to get traction on his famous example - obama's still got time then, though i wouldn't wager much money he'll get his moved along - the 13th amendment though seemed awful, awful unlikely for a long time too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Yeah, all the disgruntled stoners will suddenly get off the couch and march in the streets LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 They are massing a flotilla of over 1000 kayaks as we speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They are massing a flotilla of over 1000 kayaks as we speak! Be careful, they'll be hurling Doritos as stoner ninja throwing stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 ...kicking out the windows of the Nike Store--while wearing Nikes. Coordinating their rage against the corporate machine with locally hand-crafted i Phones. Their cavalry units ride bicycles that you and I cannot afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 ...kicking out the windows of the Nike Store--while wearing Nikes. Coordinating their rage against the corporate machine with locally hand-crafted i Phones. Their cavalry units ride bicycles that you and I cannot afford. oooh, the storm is threatenin' our very lives today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 .Their cavalry units ride bicycles that you and I cannot afford Well, if you just worked harder, then you could afford shit. Now you are just presenting yourself as a complaining cunt, waiting for a handout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Yeah, all the disgruntled stoners will suddenly get off the couch and march in the streets LOL 4000 pissed off (mainly) libturds managed to encircle the state capitol on Saturday...perhaps they just had an extra big bowl of Wheaties that morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Yeah, all the disgruntled stoners will suddenly get off the couch and march in the streets LOL 4000 pissed off (mainly) libturds managed to encircle the state capitol on Saturday...perhaps they just had an extra big bowl of Wheaties that morning? Wow, sounds like not just a storm, but a winter gale! 4000! Holy crap! Beware rich fat cats, batten down the hatches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 "big things have small beginnings" is the relevant line from "lawrence of arabia" i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Yeah, all the disgruntled stoners will suddenly get off the couch and march in the streets LOL 4000 pissed off (mainly) libturds managed to encircle the state capitol on Saturday...perhaps they just had an extra big bowl of Wheaties that morning? Yes, demanding tax increases from 30,40,50 thousand dollar a year workers so 60,70,80 thousand dollar a year teachers can get a bigger pay raise makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 I was in Oly on Saturday. There were bigger crowds for the dragon boat races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jim, I don't see anything even close to Obama's order on your list. Oh. So I see, you don't object to other EOs (up to 1.5 million affected) but rather to the degree of this case. So, say, if it affected 50% of the current EO it would be ok, how about 75%? What exactly IS the criteria here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Careful there, KK. A storm is coming! Yeah, all the disgruntled stoners will suddenly get off the couch and march in the streets LOL 4000 pissed off (mainly) libturds managed to encircle the state capitol on Saturday...perhaps they just had an extra big bowl of Wheaties that morning? Yes, demanding tax increases for 30,40,50 thousand dollar a year workers so 60,70,80 thousand dollar a year teachers can get a bigger pay raise makes a lot of sense. As usual, your factual accuracy is rather lacking. Starting salary for a teacher in Seattle area is 37,775, while median salary is 57,717. Seattle area median income is 67,479 in 2013. So wtf are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 FW never lets truth get in the way of a good FOX based arguement. For WA state teachers. pay scale Table of Total Base Salaries for K–12 Certificated Instructional Staff for 2013–14 and 2014–15 Years of Service BA+0 BA+15 BA+30 BA+45 BA+90 BA+135 MA+0 MA+45 MA+90 or PhD 0 34,048 34,968 35,920 36,875 39,939 41,913 40,820 43,885 45,860 1 34,506 35,439 36,403 37,400 40,496 42,459 41,274 44,370 46,332 2 34,943 35,884 36,859 37,933 41,020 43,004 41,731 44,818 46,802 3 35,393 36,343 37,329 38,437 41,518 43,549 42,164 45,243 47,276 4 35,834 36,826 37,818 38,964 42,064 44,110 42,618 45,718 47,765 5 36,290 37,287 38,288 39,498 42,586 44,673 43,080 46,169 48,256 6 36,759 37,734 38,769 40,039 43,113 45,211 43,552 46,626 48,723 7 37,582 38,572 39,621 40,960 44,079 46,235 44,438 47,556 49,713 8 38,787 39,831 40,905 42,355 45,516 47,751 45,832 48,994 51,228 9 41,135 42,262 43,765 46,999 49,310 47,241 50,477 52,788 10 43,635 45,247 48,524 50,913 48,724 52,003 54,390 11 46,772 50,121 52,557 50,249 53,599 56,034 12 48,249 51,761 54,269 51,835 55,238 57,748 13 53,440 56,024 53,476 56,918 59,501 14 55,128 57,844 55,165 58,716 61,322 15 56,563 59,349 56,599 60,242 62,917 16 or more 57,693 60,535 57,731 61,447 64,174 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, demanding wage stagnation from 30,40,50 thousand dollar a year teachers because (there is no fucking good reason) makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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