One fix for seattle needed

[glassgowkiss]

one fix i would like to see is to take fucking lenin's statue down. i am equally keen on having it standing, as any Jew would be psyched on having a huge statue of hitler on a street. just plain fucking offensive!

[ivan]

funny, i always took it tongue n' cheek - ya know, capitalists buying at cut-rate a shitty old statue nobody behind the iron-curtain wanted anymore n' putting it up in the Land of the Free just to rub the bastard's face in his defeat? like the crusaders tossing the crescent moon of the jerusalem mosque into the qibla cum pisser?

 

i can, however, see how one w/ roots back to that part of the world wouldn't savor the joke quite the same...

[ivan]

i once thought, passing through fremont in a thoroughly phreaked state-of-mind, that it would make a mighty-neat sci-fi story - lenin in nineteen twenty-whenever approached by some mysterious time-traveler - lenin shown a picture of seattle a century later - he erupts in gales of laughter at his triumph, then soon thereafter he gets another gallery of pix of the walmart just a few miles down the road to set him straighter

[tvashtarkatena]

You and every other humorless twit out there. If ya wants it moved, rent a

truck and good luck. Otherwise, suck it!

[tvashtarkatena]

Fini's got a perfect spot for Saddam, not that the old rusty air raid siren doesn't already rock it - leave it to the US Army to fuck up a timeless treasure on their way to a Burger King.

 

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

I thought this was going to be another rant about underground power lines

[ivan]

we shoulda lugged the roman coliseum back here, brick by brick, after teaching them eye-talian bitches a lesson in double-you-double-you-eye-eye!

[olyclimber]

[tvashtarkatena]

Those uber wise Israelis are trying to criminalize the word NAZI.

 

That should free up about half the UBB bandwidth there.

 

And kill their porn industry - which is noted for its plethora of brown mini skirted, jack booted ass divas. Give a hairless monkey a taboo...

 

BAN TOTALITARIANISM!

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[tvashtarkatena]

Hey, GGK, while you're worried about how offensive Vlad is to ya, what have you done to roll back the world's most sophisticated and invasive surveillance state in history right here in the good ole U S of A?

 

 

[ivan]

meh, trying to fuck w/ the nsa is probably dangerous - i think ggk could more readily improve his (and maybe many like-minded others?) mood if he instead just welded a large cock n' balls into lenin's cake-hole

[tvashtarkatena]

A modification which has likely been made already, as have so many others. The first thing folks started doing to Vlad after the idiot protests died down was to play dress up.

 

GIANT LENIN = FUN.

[tvashtarkatena]

The NSA - dustin' off the Espionage Act of 1917, one whistleblower at a time.

 

With a $52 B a year surveillance budget (yup, you read that right), they've got a lot to lose - as do the tech companies most of them will go to work for eventually.

 

National Security? As the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board discovered through the most in depth study of the use of their new toys and powers to date just last month - not so much. Not even one terrorist attack foiled, actually. Goose egg. Nada.

 

They told us different the year before, what was that number -= 53 or 54 terrorist plots foiled? but then, Clapper told Congress and the public under oath there was no surveillance program at all, too.

 

And Snowden's the one being charged?

 

Hmmmm.

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[glassgowkiss]

Hey, GGK, while you're worried about how offensive Vlad is to ya, what have you done to roll back the world's most sophisticated and invasive surveillance state in history right here in the good ole U S of A?

 

This was established already after 1917 soviet revolution, so if you are so worried about NSA, you should thank vladimir for breaking the trail and showing NSA how it's done. So by this way of thinking even one more reason to remove this mother fucker. BTW, this continues to this day, by installing cameras in hotel rooms and even bathrooms in Sochi, so GRU can spy on visiting foreigners.

BTW, by your mentality why not built a monument to bin laden in NYC?

Yes, this syphilitic mother fucker is offensive, as a large part of my family was deported in 1939 to Kazakhstan, and my grandfather spent several years in prison . So fuck your statement asshole.

[glassgowkiss]

A modification which has likely been made already, as have so many others. The first thing folks started doing to Vlad after the idiot protests died down was to play dress up.

 

GIANT LENIN Might as well write: Auschwitz = FUN.

[tvashtarkatena]

Hey, GGK, while you're worried about how offensive Vlad is to ya, what have you done to roll back the world's most sophisticated and invasive surveillance state in history right here in the good ole U S of A?

 

This was established already after 1917 soviet revolution, so if you are so worried about NSA, you should thank vladimir for breaking the trail and showing NSA how it's done. So by this way of thinking even one more reason to remove this mother fucker. BTW, this continues to this day, by installing cameras in hotel rooms and even bathrooms in Sochi, so GRU can spy on visiting foreigners.

BTW, by your mentality why not built a monument to bin laden in NYC?

Yes, this syphilitic mother fucker is offensive, as a large part of my family was deported in 1939 to Kazakhstan, and my grandfather spent several years in prison . So fuck your statement asshole.

 

Yeah, and my peeps were persecuted by the English, but you don't see me wasting my time burnin' effigies of Oliver Cromwell. I wasn't there. Neither were you.

 

We only have the present and the future. The past is gone. Trying to make right what cannot be made right is an impossibility - and the revenge such a mentality often calls for is a formula for perpetuated human misery. Look forward, Angel. Plenty of shit to do right now to try to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen again. There are things that piss you off, sure, but then again there are things that constitute very real threats to a free society - the one we supposedly live in right now. Insults and Threats are two very different things. One chooses to be insulted. You choose to be insulted by Lenin. Many do not. Same damn statue.

 

One does not chose to be threatened. That's the end of the playing field where the most action is needed. I can provide some specific actions you can take, today, that will substantively help prevent totalitarianism from growing right here at home.

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[ivan]

BTW, by your mentality why not built a monument to bin laden in NYC?

the difference, dear druk, would be that 'mericans didn't make the lenin statue, they nipped it from the very bastards they were all nervous about all those years. ut bif the talibano's have themselves a groovy statue of OBL, then yeah, why not wrench it out of the ground and put it some park in nyc? ya know, let people pour bags of shit on top of it for 5$ a head n' put the moola towards a survivors' fund?

[ivan]

"irony, it's what's for breakfast"

[glassgowkiss]

 

Yeah, and my peeps were persecuted by the English, but you don't see me wasting my time burnin' effigies of Oliver Cromwell. I wasn't there. Neither were you.

 

Actually I was, so fuck you very much. I was born and raised in a communist country, I have a political refugee status. My grand uncle was killed in 1940 in Ostaszkow, my grandfather served 10 years on death row (lucky for him stalin died first). My father was fired and demoted in his workplace 2 times, because he refused to become a party member. I was kicked out of college, because of my political views, so excuse me if I don't share your fucked opinion.

[tvashtarkatena]

If all art that insulted somebody, somewhere, were censored, we'd be limited to statues of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

 

Oh, wait...

 

Good art shakes you out of your droll existence a bit. It excites you - sometimes uncomfortably. It lays new neural pathways in its viewers.

 

I'd say Vlad qualifies as great art in GGK's view.

 

For every GGK, there's a true believer who calls for censorship of Piss Christ, a prude who wants Murakami's figures broken up...in a world of 7 billion hairless monkeys, everything insults someone somewhere. Who turns that around? Yup, that's right - its up to the insulted to figure that one out, not the rest of us.

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[tvashtarkatena]

 

Yeah, and my peeps were persecuted by the English, but you don't see me wasting my time burnin' effigies of Oliver Cromwell. I wasn't there. Neither were you.

 

Actually I was, so fuck you very much. I was born and raised in a communist country, I have a political refugee status. My grand uncle was killed in 1940 in Ostaszkow, my grandfather served 10 years on death row (lucky for him stalin died first). My father was fired and demoted in his workplace 2 times, because he refused to become a party member. I was kicked out of college, because of my political views, so excuse me if I don't share your fucked opinion.

 

Yeah, and my folks suffered a litany of horrors due to their poverty while growing up. Welcome to the club. Each society serves up its own brand of nastiness. You'll forgive me if I seem unmoved - but its 2014. I have little patience for people who dwell on the past and hang on to their hate as a result - the whole victimhood thing. The world has all of that it can use already. It doesn't make for a better future-quite the opposite. Action relevant to what's happening today does, however. And its that kind of action that often provides a constructive conduit for all that negative energy.

 

And that requires a sense of humor, because things don't always work out the way you want.

 

You're probably not used to people shrugging off your stories about your great grand uncle 74 years ago - but everybody's got stories of their own. You may view my indifference as ill intentioned.

 

It is anything but.

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

 

Yes, Lenin was a murderous, syphilitic, megalomaniacal sociopath. The presence of that statue in Fremont says nothing to the contrary - explicitly or implicitly.

 

There is more than one way to interpret that statue in that location in 2014.

 

 

 

 

[tvashtarkatena]

2 years ago a friend's wife died of cancer. Less than 3 weeks later he dropped dead of a heart attack on his front lawn. The event orphaned their children.

 

Being kicked out of college decades ago probably sucked. One must put things in perspective, however. Is your life/health or that of a loved one directly threatened? Were you raped when you were a child by people assigned to care for you? Did you not see your beloved mother for 5 years because she was deported when you were 13?

 

I know people in all if these categories - today, not decades ago. Again, forgive me if I'm not as sympathetic to the harms you've suffered at the hands of those damned commies, GGK, but it seems like you're actually doing pretty well by comparison.

 

I suspect you appreciate that at some level. I don't presume to know. But as far as your stories of the old country - again, everybody got something they've dealt or are dealing with. You might consider that before repeating your great grand uncle story from 1940 for the nth time.

 

I can't go back and kill Stalin for your great grand uncle. Given that Stalin's forces were the primary reason for Germany's defeat, I'm not sure that would have resulted in a better outcome overall. I can't cure cancer or prevent heart attacks. I can't prosecute the priests that molested my grade school pals (they did go to prison - and, of course, few in the parish believed they were guilty). I can help prevent teens from having their mothers deported and families torn apart, however - as a very small part of a much larger concerted effort.

 

All of us can do more than we realize to create the future we want. Not one of us can do anything at all about the past.

Edited February 10, 2014 by tvashtarkatena

[rob]

[rob]

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/34922/

 

A groundbreaking hour long special where Glenn Beck takes us back in time to examine the roots of socialism and communism and the evil that followed. We all know about the horrors of the holocaust where the pure evil Hitler inspired claimed the lives of millions of innocent people. But most do not know about the millions upon millions of lives lost in a different genocide of the Ukrainian people under the Stalin regime. This special also takes a look behind the iconic fashion symbol of Che Guevara showing that the myth doesn’t tell the story of the man who was a blood thirsty killer. We meet a family who saw first hand what a monster the man was. They know the cost of communism and you will too when you hear their story, and who can forget about Mao Zedong? A leader responsible for 70-million deaths during his reign. All communist. All killers. We will show you things you’ve never seen but need to.