matsfredrickson Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm getting into alpine climbing in the cascades (Mt. Rainier to be more specific) and I am in the market for some mountaineering pants. However, I'm not sure if I should get hard shell or soft shell pants, both of which have been recommended to me in stores. My understanding is that soft shell pants will be more breathable, but hard shell pants will be completely wind and water proof. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have a pair of hardshell pants. I think I've used them maybe once or twice. Get soft-shell pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I recently got rid of my hard shell pants. I like soft shell pants for pretty much everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhen Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I currently use the Stoic Overhang Pants that I got on sale for $60 on Steep and Cheap (just up again today). Freakin love them. Next pants on my list: NW Alpine's Fast/Light Pants. Has a grommet on the bottom to through some cord in so you don't need gaiters. Both are softshell. I've never even pulled out my hardshells. I think i'll sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 REI ACME...but they may have been just discontinued...Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcg Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 REI ACME...but they may have been just discontinued...Damn! +1 Love those pants! Very durable as well, except for the velcro tabs at the bottom, which need to be replaced periodically. I'd buy another pair if they hadn't been discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caverpilot Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 either way, get ones that the size zippers come completely off - that way you can put them on/off without removing your skis or crampons, diaper style. Personally, I typically climb in fleece or polyester pants, and use my Mountain Hardware hardshells when it gets too cold, wet or nasty. Plus you can fall down a lot and not get wet! Ha ha! Full zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Full zips are necessary for those rainpants you'll never put on again once you have softshells, which don't come with em cuz the all temp fabric makes them unnecessary. Roll yer softshells up if it gets really warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zub Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 REI ACME...but they may have been just discontinued...Damn! I was just about to buy another pair of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistro Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Mt. Hardwear thech. pants(soft shell) have full side zipps. I also have hard shell full side zipps from REI with conduit material. very nice pants. They are very usefull in winter if your in wet snow and or cold windy conditions. they dont freeze up like soft shells. soft shell pants seem to always collect some moisture. If you go with guide service they will want you to have both in most instances. depends on how much you go out in the winter and what the conditions you expect. for instance, if you are hiking Nelson ridge or American ridge or trail 2000 around Bumping lake in the winter, I would take hard shell pants because of the deep snow and cold wind. A few months back I climbed in Ecuador and wore the hards shells climbing the mountains but the soft shells ever where else. When I climbed Rainier I wore the hard shells just to be safe, mountain weather is unpredictable so I plan for worst case scenario to be sure I come home. What is your comfort level?? That is the deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslide Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I think you'll find most people nowadays will recommend softshell. But for myself I find that during the winter I like hardshell. I tend to get cold wearing softshell in winter. Best option is to buy both but if you can't afford it right now I'd go softshell then buy hardshell later for winter (especially for overnight winter excusions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslide Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 And +1 for the overhang. I have both the shorts and the pants and absolutely love them. I even use them when I'm shooting photography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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