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Any wall that takes more than a day to climb by an average climber.

 

I like this definition

 

Any wall that requires a bivy on the wall.

 

This needs "by an average climber" to be accurate IMO

 

Guys who climb El Cap in under 24 hours or for that matter in 5 hours really take the definition of big wall and throw it out the window.

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Any climb where the weight of the water you have to haul is greater than the weight of all your other gear?

 

Someone who does big wall climbing told me that in summer in some places, each pair's haul bag will be 175 lbs with more than half that being water. Water weights 8.3 lbs per gallon so that represents more than 5-1/2 gallons per person. If you use 1-1/2 gals. per day that's almost 4 days' worth. Long time to be on a route.

 

P.S. an aid route, not free

 

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Did I post this in spray? I didn't think so.....

 

Perhaps you should have posted in Newbies?

 

Perhaps. I just thought it would be an interesting conversation to have. I understand that everybody's opinion will be different....but that is the beauty of it.

 

"One persons big wall is another's persons day out on the rock"

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Well if you've ever seen ESPN's around the horn......

 

Offwhite-- you could deduct posts from Kev's total for the really dumb ones, double deduction for starting a dumb thread.

 

 

Why is starting a discussion on what is and is not a big wall dumb?

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Well if you've ever seen ESPN's around the horn......

 

Offwhite-- you could deduct posts from Kev's total for the really dumb ones, double deduction for starting a dumb thread.

 

Hit 'em where it hurts!

he'd be at zero...
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Well if you've ever seen ESPN's around the horn......

 

Offwhite-- you could deduct posts from Kev's total for the really dumb ones, double deduction for starting a dumb thread.

 

 

Why is starting a discussion on what is and is not a big wall dumb?

 

Because.

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