TheNumberNine Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Hey guys. Just wanted to see what some of you thought of using a single wool sock with the Koflach Artic Expe for Denali. I just got my hands on some boots and I can't tell if I should use a single sock or a sock with a liner yet. The boots fit comfortably snug with the heavy + liner socks but I'm wondering with foot swell if they'll get too tight. They're also brand spankin' new so I think the liners might pack out a little bit. Would my feet be warm enough with a single sock + overboots higher up? What sock arrangements work well for you? Thoughts, comments, criticisms, and laughs welcome. Thanks peoples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I did not notice swelling in my boots, Scarpa Invernos with Intuition linters. I think a single sock would keep your feet warmer than any combination of socks that are too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 You said the boot fits snug with two socks. Do you not have wiggle room for your toes? You should have a little room in the toes, otherwise front pointing, step kicking, and descending will be uncomfortable. To test the fit, kick a stair riser several times. Your toes should not contact the front of the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Would my feet be warm enough with a single sock + overboots higher up? To many variables internal and external to be able to definitively answer this kind of question. But my one trip up denali was good with the same boot/overboot/sock and liner setup you are asking about. My boots and socks were new also and I believe they packed in to compensate for any swelling if there was any. Realize though that we had relatively pleasant early june conditions. Your situation may be radically different. (covering my moral/ethical ass) Your boot situation sounds adequate but don't go cheap on the other gear though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 you need to answer your own question by doing at least a week's worth of walking in them in the hills - the kahiltna's a shitty place to have feet to fucked to fumble on down the trail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNumberNine Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 They're comfortably snug at this point. I can kick stairs and not have my toes hit the front and I can wiggle them but there isn't a ton of room. Since they're brand new boots do you guys think the liners might pack out a little bit and maybe get a little roomier if I hike around a bit with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 no, not much - plastics need to be comfy from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNumberNine Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 Hm.. Guess the only way I'll know is to log some miles in them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 the liners will pack in a little. Not much packing in goes lengthwise but you will notice the looseness in the width of the foot which good for you as this is were the swelling would occur. And yes, you do need to spend a fair bit of time in them for many reasons. Making your feet conform to the boot. (plastic boots don't break in, you do) Form tough skin on parts of the foot that need to be tough. (think blisters) Developing the right walking pattern for plastic boots. Getting in good climbing shape. Ect. ect. ect. good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfinley Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 FWIW my feet swell a fair amount at altitude. I tend to just wear one pair of thick wool socks. A liner helps me with blisters for slog days (skiing / dragging sled) but doesn't really matter on days when I'm actually climbing. Like others have said, the only way to tell how your feet will do is wear the boots a fair amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingHerc Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I have the same boots and took them with me to Denali last June. I had previously purchased mine used so the standard liners were a bit off/mangled and fit my feet weird. Comfort: I upgraded to the intuition liners, had them molded to my feet and didn't have any problems with comfort in Alaska. Warmth: Again the intuition liners were a big upgrade in warmth and lightness with single sock. Highly recommended, but I can't compare them to brand new stock liners for warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNumberNine Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 I've been wearing the boots around the house and they're starting to feel better. What actually made a big difference was putting my heel inserts that I wear in my converses in there. Somehow they seem to fit like a glove now.... Weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNumberNine Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Did a 7 mile hike on trails in the boots yesterday.. I wore a single light weight hiking sock and my feet aren't mangled. I think it's a good sign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCougAbides Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Which foot are you planning on wearing that sock? If you have a snug fit on the boot with the sock, the other boot may be loose, and your foot may get cold. I recommend bringing at least 2 socks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNumberNine Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Which foot are you planning on wearing that sock? If you have a snug fit on the boot with the sock, the other boot may be loose, and your foot may get cold. I recommend bringing at least 2 socks. The boot isn't too snug..I feel like breaking them in has helped. I'm not quite sure I get what you're saying... I plan on wearing the socks on both feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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