glassgowkiss Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 friggin lier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 of course JB et. al. will still support this guy. They're incapable of saying anything critical about a republican in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Bring America back to the 3rd world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 of course JB et. al. will still support this guy. They're incapable of saying anything critical about a republican in office. Â They've clearly stated they'll never support a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 In his own words. Now how is it legal, that a public official talks with non media person about details going on in legislature. How is it ethical? Â [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The Rfucks need to resort to fun and games because the public overwhelmingly does NOT support their actual agenda of wealth concentration, near term asset stripping, and establishing an Evangelical caliphate where women are forced to bear unwanted young, gays are prevented from marrying the one they love, and other religions, most notably Islam, is persecuted both here and abroad. Â So they tuck their true agenda under the guise of fiscal and 'personal' responsibility. In the rare instances where they actually admit what they're up to (Gingrich, who tried to raid SS et al), the cruelty and unfairness of their agenda comes to light and voters send them a big ole FU in a gift basket. Â Up till 2004 the game was keeping blacks (overwhelmingly Dem) away from the polls in hotly contesting areas. This year's attempt at achieving the Rfuck Caliphate is union (overwhelmingly Dem) busting. I suppose attacking hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs seems like a good idea in the time of 10% unemployment to some folks. Â We all know the drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 They sure are quiet in here, today. LOL! Like when you catch someone with a huge, steaming poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 They sure are quiet in here, today. LOL! Like when you catch someone with a huge, steaming poo. because they know their errand boy fucked up and even might have to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 nah, he won't resign. Not even close. And I doubt this will change any of the republicans minds about anything. If there is one thing partisans are good at, it's ignoring any conflicting data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Wait, what's which is the true agenda and which is the actual agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) I'm sure JayB will grace us with yet another long winded explanation shortly. His citation footnoted pieces are my favorite. Edited February 23, 2011 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dude, the gov is just keeping in touch with his constituency. Providing a return on his donor's investment. It's how one dollar, one vote works. Gotta run government more like a business don'tcha know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Gotta run the government more like a business, except when it comes to public employees. They shouldn't get unions, cause government isn't a business! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It's also necessary to suspend their Iron Law of Rational Self Interest when it applies to workers acting collectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 That law only applies to the rich. Workers are just assets who annoyingly think for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Why negotiate as Governor when you can pull a Gaddafi and bring in foreign mercenaries to take care of protestors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Gov. Scott Walker has got a Louisville Slugger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 That law only applies to the rich. funny you mention this. last week in the NYT interview Madoff stated that the main reason he is serving jail time is because he was defrauding rich people instead of general population, like the rest of banking and wall street executives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 bunch of freeloaders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Did you ever notice how much Maddoff looks like George Washington? Â [img:left]http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/02/large_maddoff.feb.jpg[/img] [img:right]http://www.wikinfo.org/upload/d/dd/George_Washington_1795.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 of course JB et. al. will still support this guy. They're incapable of saying anything critical about a republican in office. Â wut? were you thinking of me when you wrote this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The Rfucks need to resort to fun and games because the public overwhelmingly does NOT support their actual agenda of wealth concentration, near term asset stripping, and establishing an Evangelical caliphate where women are forced to bear unwanted young, gays are prevented from marrying the one they love, and other religions, most notably Islam, is persecuted both here and abroad. So they tuck their true agenda under the guise of fiscal and 'personal' responsibility. In the rare instances where they actually admit what they're up to (Gingrich, who tried to raid SS et al), the cruelty and unfairness of their agenda comes to light and voters send them a big ole FU in a gift basket.  Up till 2004 the game was keeping blacks (overwhelmingly Dem) away from the polls in hotly contesting areas. This year's attempt at achieving the Rfuck Caliphate is union (overwhelmingly Dem) busting. I suppose attacking hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs seems like a good idea in the time of 10% unemployment to some folks.  We all know the drill.  They are playing Disaster Capitalism, after creating several crises, and they know they only have a short time to pass the most outrageous stuff before people wake up, give them the boot and promptly elect some corporatist Democrats on some promise of change she/he'll never deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 NYT poll analysis, for what it's worth:  "The Gallup poll, however, suggests that while reducing benefits and pay for government workers is somewhat unpopular (it is opposed by a 53-44 margin), reducing their collective bargaining rights is much more clearly so (it is opposed 61-33). And Mr. Walker’s budget proposal aims to do some of both."  Pretty typical of most Rfuck issues once their true agenda sees the light of day.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What's the news here - exactly? Â People who benefit from the tax-funded patronage machine want to keep it going, those who don't want to end it. Please don't tell me that Democrats aren't making tactical discussions with union bosses about how to keep the patronage engine going. Â The funny thing about this "fight" is that the very best that public sector unions can achieve is a pyrrhic victory. They keep the gravy train rolling and either prevent any measures that would make the delivery of public services more cost-efficient, or better yet from their perspective actually get massive boosts in pay and benefits and the end result is that their states implode fiscally sooner rather than later. The best possible outcome for them in that scenario is the complete gutting of public services with significant layoffs in order to keep pay and benefits untouched for the folks with enough seniority or connections to avoid the axe. Â Even if the public is cool with the pay-more-for-less dynamic, the bond market won't be, and since the trend cost growth will continue to increase at a rate that exceeds the rate at which the underlying economy grows, even incremental tax increases won't fend off the inevitable forever. If the politicians can't force through a fundamental restructuring of public sector compensation models, the bond market eventually will. Â The funny thing is that public sector unions have much more to fear from "friends" that encourage them to cling to schemes that are destined to fail than enemies that are attempting to modify them in ways that would actually keep them solvent, even if they have political motives for doing so. Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The WSJ just ran the Koch phone hoax story, so my guess is that it's been pretty thoroughly vetted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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