Dane Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Got one? Quick cash for the right drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I've got an extra Ryobi gas powered drill I'll sell you but I am keeping my Hilti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 You don't specify what you are looking for Dane, but if you can't find that used one here and the Gas one isn't to your liking, there is a site called Bosch CPO or just CPO I suppose that sometimes has Certified Pre-Owned for a great price. Â http://www.cpotools.com/ Â I got the tiny Dawg now, lil bro to the big one in the pic below, and it's been rocking the Casaba. The smaller Bosch 36 V is the best in the market for climbers I'm convinced. Unless you need lighter for going to the middle of nowwhere I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Mountain Gear has them in their new catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Thanks guys. Bill is this the one you suggest?  http://www.mytoolstore.com/bosch/hamdri36.html  I likely know more about womens heels than drills or what I need in a drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Not that you arent welcome to borrow mine but I'd go 175 since the batteries are dead... I need new double boots more than a drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanb Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Thanks guys. Bill is this the one you suggest? http://www.mytoolstore.com/bosch/hamdri36.html  I likely know more about womens heels than drills or what I need in a drill.  That is a hammer drill which might be okay for basic home repair stuff, you actually want a roto hammer for rock with any sort of hardness.  I have the same one as bill, it is light enough to lead with and can drill a half inch hole it drills 3/8 holes in granite like it was butter and 1/2 inch reasonably quickly. Bosch 11536C. 11536C-1 is one battery, 11536C-2 is two. the C is for compact so make sure you get that one or you will end up with a bigger tool.  http://www.cpotools.com/bosch-11536c-1-36v-cordless-litheon-compact-sds-plus-rotary-hammer/bshn11536c-1,default,pd.html?start=3&cgid=bosch-cordless-rotary-hammers#prReview  Note all the reviews are from climbers. Cpo tools reconditioned is the way to go but they seem to only have new at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Thanks guys. Bill is this the one you suggest? http://www.mytoolstore.com/bosch/hamdri36.html  Not that one Dane. The "hammer" drills are really only good for a hole or 2 and they are slow. For what we do you want a full on "Rotary" Hammer. The motion of how they drill is radically different. This one: http://www.cpotools.com/bosch-11536c-1-36v-cordless-litheon-compact-sds-plus-rotary-hammer/bshn11536c-1,default,pd.html?start=4&q=hammer%20drill If you pop that extra handle off the 11536C-1 it's under 6 lbs. Be aware that this weight savings is partially achieved via a lighter slimline battery that will get you less holes than the full sized batteries. The larger drill will drill faster but get less holes than the little one. Great for a construction guy, not necessary for a climber.  The full sized one, 11536VSR 36V, I was getting 13-14 holes into conglomerate like that in the picture, 1/2" x 7" deep on a full sized battery. It would drill these holes in under 10 seconds, typically 7-8 seconds. The small critter would get 18-19 holes and it was taking more along the lines of 14-19 seconds. To give you an idea, my Panasonic hammer drill which is comparable to the Bosch hammer drill you linked, was taking 15-20 minutes to get a hole in hard andesite. http://www.cpotools.com/bosch-11536vsr-36v-cordless-litheon-1-in-sds-plus-rotary-hammer/bshn11536vsr,default,pd.html?start=6&q=hammer%20drill  If you are thinking of Johns drill, that thing is more along the lines of the big one in terms of weight. (9.6 for the Bosch and @ 10 for the Hilti, but the Hilti's are much like driving a Mercedes....soooo sweet. People love the Hiltis because they are much quieter than a Bosch and will get a lot more holes out of a battery charge than any other drill. The only complains you'll see on Hiltis is how much they cost. They are slightly slower than the Bosch (but certainly still fast enough for any construction work or a climber) which is the fastest drilling cordless currently made. There are people who will rebuild batteries for these things, and that would be the way to go.  I likely know more about womens heels than drills or what I need in a drill. Cool, I've been wondering how I'd look in black pumps fishnets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 @Bill: any leads on dudes that rebuild batteries for my drill? Any local options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I've haven't done it yet John, but maybe start by perusing here: http://www.primecell.com/pctools.htm Joseph used these guys for his Hilti battery rebuilds so maybe he'll speak for how they did for him. Sorry, it's in PA. Â The other option is the guys who are going to a crag that needs lots of holes, they'll build up, from scratch, a sealed external battery which is inside of an elongated piece of PVC with a wire going to the tool. The tool is thus lighter, and they can get a lot more holes out of it. This has been discussed on Supertopo a couple of times with full on instructions given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 This is where I get Hilti batts... Â http://www.dholmes.com/hilti-accessories.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jefe Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 but the really important question is why does dane want a drill? some sort of home improvement project? or something more sinister? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Great info, thanks. Â Local charity project, that everyone will love when/if i get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jefe Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 i had a feeling this impulse sprang from the goodness of your heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhound Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 that is if his heart is made of cold forged steel and beats to the drum of snow flakes and the sounds of picks on rock:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boadman Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 @Bill: any leads on dudes that rebuild batteries for my drill? Any local options? Â I always just wire motorcycle batteries together in series with a long extension cord and leave the batteries hanging from the previous bolt. Way more holes, cheaper, and they last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 This is where I get Hilti batts... http://www.dholmes.com/hilti-accessories.htm  If I have an old TE 6A can I use the new Li Ion 36 V batteries with it? Or are the new Li Ion batteries not backwards compatible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I believe I asked the same question at the time I ordered my battery about 2 years ago and I belive the answer I got was you had to use an old style batt with the old style drill. Rad might know as well, he has the exact same drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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