Wallstein Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I'm looking for the best lightweight short ice axe/tool with a hammer for alpine rockclimbing . The best thing I can find is the Simond Fox Carving axe The only problem with the Simond is it lacks a hammer, which is mandatory in places like Patagonia (and you can't buy them in the US). I have a Simond super fox rock currently which is sweet for glacier travel and then pounding in pins but it would be pretty grim to climb anything steeper with it. I've used the BD venom a bunch and am happy with the way it performs but I'd really like something a fair bit lighter. Anyone one know of a tool/axe that is shaped and featured like a BD Venom but way lighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_rutl Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Petzl Aztarex? http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Petzl-Aztarex-Ice-Tool/PTZ0092M.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallstein Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 The Petzl Aztarex are barely lighter than the Venom. 530g vs 500g. I'm looking for something around 400g or lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I have the simond fox you mentioned with a hammer. got it 10 years ago, maybe they still have some laying around the factory? best damn hammer/ice tool ever. could you forge a hammer on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Grivel Evo hammer is 500g in a 48cm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The Petzl Aztarex are barely lighter than the Venom. 530g vs 500g. I'm looking for something around 400g or lighter. hack 5~10 cm off the end of it, set it up in a drill press and have at it .... I'm sure Dane could do a nice job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Black Troisieme by Grivel, Marteau Fox by Simond, P'tit Loop by Charlet (I think they make a hammer and an adze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Black Troisieme by Grivel, Marteau Fox by Simond, P'tit Loop by Charlet (I think they make a hammer and an adze all great choices .. if you can find someone willing to part with one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallstein Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 Dane, could you weld a hammer on this?? Simond Fox Carving = 290grams 43cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 sure if the head is steel...est weight would be 350/400g And something like $75 if I have to supply the hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallstein Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 Got my modified Simond Fox Carving tool back from Dane! Awesome! It comes in somewhere around 375g. Which is about the same as the older Simond Fox (that is hard to find). The Carving will be a bit nicer for actually climbing alpine ice with its curved shaft. Also nice for high dagger. It does kinda feel like a toy ice tool.... I wonder how long its going to last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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