G-spotter Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 the un written rules of bolts in the wild. Can you spell these out for me? 1) don't get caught Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillcrankin Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Any routes to the top of the NNB other then Doorish's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshamster Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hands Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 As far as I understand from one of the few involved- the "project" route is mixed aid and free and is being climbed ground up. Highly doubt it will be a trade route for the masses. Still looking for answers as to why your friends bolted a crack on the first pitch and claim it not to be a route for the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 roger strong and co. did an 8 pitch route on the butress but i dont know if they topped out? said it was quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hands Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 roger strong and co. did an 8 pitch route on the butress but i dont know if they topped out? said it was quality. Acctually it was Blair Williams and co. Roger and others bailed after 4 pitches while Blair soloed the rest. That guys core! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Anybody care? I think Index is in a designated logging wilderness. So we should be very concerned about bolts where no one can see them but encourage the clearcutting of our forests as you hardly even notice when they are gone, but those bolts are forever, and the negative impacts of them are......help me out here....? You, like so many other clueless "climbers", seem to excuse your permanent alterations of the environment by constantly citing logging, roads, and road cuts to the extent that you think you're justified to do anything else as long as it's on a lesser scale. That's lame. The average backpacker has far more environmental consciousness about leaving little trace than the average modern rock climber who thinks it's just fine (and the status quo) to leave their permanent metallic mark - again- no matter what the scale - wherever they please. Grow up. Rock climbing at one time was developing a clue but then sold out to convenience and easy safety. The sport climbing "revolution" was a tragedy, not a progression. It was,in a sense, environmental devolution. While you think you're progressing with a bunch of artificial and rehearsed scenarios, much of the world of outdoor endeavors has long ethically passed you by and shake their heads in wonder as to why you refuse to clean up your act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 We are so blessed with you continually telling us what is proper and how to live our lives. What would we ever do without you? [/sarcasm] You, like so many other clueless "climbers", seem to excuse your permanent alterations of the environment by constantly citing logging, roads, and road cuts to the extent that you think you're justified to do anything else as long as it's on a lesser scale. That's lame. The average backpacker has far more environmental consciousness about leaving little trace than the average modern rock climber who thinks it's just fine (and the status quo) to leave their permanent metallic mark - again- no matter what the scale - wherever they please. Grow up. Rock climbing at one time was developing a clue but then sold out to convenience and easy safety. The sport climbing "revolution" was a tragedy, not a progression. It was,in a sense, environmental devolution. While you think you're progressing with a bunch of artificial and rehearsed scenarios, much of the world of outdoor endeavors has long ethically passed you by and shake their heads in wonder as to why you refuse to clean up your act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 mr hands or anyone. does their route top out at the end of the diffuculties or does it summit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hands Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 comone bwrts spill the beans... bloted cracks!!!! kukuzka: this should answer your question http://books.google.com/books?id=lE2PJ1jsSZEC&pg=PA194&lpg=PA194&dq=voodoo+proj+mt+index&source=bl&ots=E9DFWqXjG3&sig=0f_5SawHLAf-OsURXHynW34zh18&hl=en&ei=MJFtTLy0O4G6sAOQ4-zHCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 gracias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillcrankin Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thank you Mr. Hands! And thank you Mr. jshamster- you clever little rodent stuffer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverenough Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 to Mr Subaru--no wonder you asked about a horse driving a POS like that - the liberal emblem of seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaoleung Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Maybe we should talk about the merits of two or three more bolts on the whale back of SEW. You know, it would really make it more enjoyable for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverenough Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 BOLTS BOLTS Everywhere the more the better!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwrts Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 comone bwrts spill the beans... bloted cracks!!!! /quote] I know nothing more than originally said except there were two separate parties involved climbing apparently two lines to a now shared anchor(as far as I understand, the 2 parties are not working together). IF it is a bloted crack, that would make for some trip report. however, a bolted crack is BullSheit and should be eradicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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