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mattp

Negativity is bad for our sport

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quote:

Originally posted by jblakley:

guys, no offense but I don't think it serves any purpose to argue on the bulletin board. You have access to each others mailboxes why not keep it there?

Cause some of us like to watch fights! Welcome to The SprayCage!

 

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My only problem with watching a fight on a BBS is that it leaves too much to the imagination. I want to see some MFing hard core gore and violence. Cavey, Lambone would you guys be so kind as to set up a web cam so we can watch you two beat the holy piss out of one another? That would be most kind.

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I'll get that hardware setup ASAP Blakely. Or just see if we both show up at the next beer guzzling pub thingy. Oh wait Beck might handcuff me to the bumper of a car!

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Well I will say the topo for Castle Rock, mainly the upper part, is probably the poorest topo in Viktors book. I found it easy to get confused about which route runs where in the upper part of the Rock above Angel. but all the routes seem to merge anyways...and be about the same difficulty. Viktor maybe for the next book you need to blow this section up a bit or use some shading or colors to distinguish one route from another*? See that is a polite criticism but I'm certain V. was glad to know that someone out there thought the topo was poor whether it was expressed in my fashion or in another way.

*Or maybe some text explaining which line is followed where? In the topo the pod of Saints looks like a double crack system, not a pod, until you figure it out. Too many lines of the same thickness = confusion.

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Retro -

It's easy to criticize your action because they are so wrong. But tell me since it appears that my track record is important in my appearent criticism your actions how exactly does that work? I'll ge tthe ball rolling:

1 I am a mad bolter and rap bolt all the time.

2 I am an experienced trad climber with balls of steel and I never clip bolts.

3 I am a DFW manager walking along the base and see obviously damaged hangers.

Three situations different background tell me how the differing background in each situation will make an analysis of your action easier or more difficult. Remember we are not talking about the form of the conclusion here but simply the difficulty of the process.

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Peter,

Obviously you want to argue with Retro about bolting. Well let me tell you he aint gonna change homey. You are wasting your keystrokes bro wink.gif

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Don't listen to him Caveman. This thread is about negativity.

Back to the BATTLECAGE... you suck. I'd like to see you try and alpine climb.

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Well, you know... i figure I'm wasting time, I might as well waste space too. Lets here you make fun of caveman!

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No not wanting to argue just wondering about his thinking process. I am convinced it is in error. But willing to learn from my betters.

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HIIIIIIIIIILARIOUS guys! Way to pound mattp's point home!

On the topic he started even, pure genius!

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What's everybody so scared of Caveman for? Who's he think he is, Randy Savage?

P.S. To Caveman

My real name is Mike O'Brien and I live at 29314 41st ave ne Redmond WA

In case you want a name and address for an answer.

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Mike O'b what are the GPS coordinates of that location? Capt needs to know to program the cruise missile properly.

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quote:

Originally posted by Dru:

Mike O'b what are the GPS coordinates of that location? Capt needs to know to program the cruise missile properly.

I can't get that detailed due to my agreement with the witness protection program.

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Well I received a two PMS that pretty much tell it all:

from the Cap'tn:I am going to chop all the bolts you put in.

From Mr. X:If you are curious about new routes, primarily in the Leavenworth area. I will give you some info via. personal email.

Another case where the site looses out do to negativity.

In response to those wondering why routes weren't posted: (see another thread) some people I have talked to pretty much fit in with Matt's respone but a most I talked to simply do not want to report here because they choose to give the site no legitimacy.

People are choosing not to post not because they are scare of the "big monsters" here but as I said before they are disgusted by the people posting here.

Pope (AKA I have not come to bury the well respected NW climber but to praise him) ask Respected PNW climber how nice you are. First you say "I wont remove your bolts" then you help instigate a series of threads bashing him then when the bashing gets really hot you comeout in a series of lame posts supporting him. Maybe I should should open up a pychoanalytic couch similar to your confessional. Come on the Dr. is in! All in all and great show of negativity and as someone else said in a post not too long ago .."slimey"

Dru, from DDD restored page 2:"And why don't you fix those topos for Castle Rock; they suck" There are other similar quotes but Ill let you find them. By the way, I neglected to thank you for your support yesterday the the "kettle" is certainly black!

Cavey -

Seems surpising that you are concerned with the truth in your post exchange with lambone after telling express untruths about my comunication in PMs to third parties. I am still waiting for a refutation of my logic.

Peter

 

 

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Hey,hey,hey... I never said anything about violence. Caveman would cruh me. Anyone who knows me would bet on him and no one would win anything.

Cavey, go back and check it out, you are the one who brought this debate to this board. What are we debating anyway? Nothing. I guess I was just calling you a spraying macho loser, but that is common knowledge. And yes I have every right to take attacks on VW personally. I spend alot of time there, I really like 99.9% of our regular customers, and I try to make them happy so they feel like they are getting their $'s worth. I don't know what that employee at Redmond is all about, but come down to Seattle and I bet you'll have a different experience. See ya.

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Peter since you have decided not to identify yourself I treat you like you are. Another faceless name. Dont expect much effort until then...

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His name is Peter. What else do you want, his adresse and phone #. No one would be crazy enough to tell you that. Hell I am scared that you've got my e-mail adresse.

And he has a good point.

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Hold up Lammy,

Lemme drag some bat boys over and we can infiltrate your home. I got some .50 cal machine guns, m60s and a ton of grenades... Just pulled up your address on Mapquest and I got my GPS heading over. Move ovah beyotch Ray is gonna take ovah.

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ROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!! This is what I really look like everybody. Just ask anyone that was at the pub the other day. Peter I am coming after you next tongue.gif

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Peter Eater,

It is very easy to stand behind a veil of anonymity and criticize others based on their track record when you have none of your own.

I did smash those hangars at vantage out of respect for tradition and the environment. I did no damage to the rock and no increase in visual impact at all, merely rendered the bolts unusable. I chopped the bolts at first and then they grew back as half inchers. I hammered them flat and the lemmings just strainghtened them back out anc clipped them.

quote:

Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman:

Peter since you have decided not to identify yourself I treat you like you are. Another faceless name. Dont expect much effort until then...

 

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