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Martin Volken is by far one of the more competent guides in the PNW and you'll get good quality instruction through him. Plus he's a hellava nice guy and has a teutonic wit that won't quit.

http://www.proguiding.com

If you decide to go with AAI for some reason ask for Paul Rosser to be your guide cause Paul is just simply a kick ass good guy to be around!

Panther

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B-rock:

The two day summit climb is a summit climb. It is like an amusement park ride designed to get you to the summit, not to teach you anything more than the required amount to get you to the summit.

If you want to learn you need to take classes that focus on what you want to learn. Most of the schools offer 3-4-5 day courses that actually focus on learning, not on the summit.

I recommend Mountain Madness. I have been on overseas trips with them to Africa and Peru and they run a good show. I also know many of the guides and they are very competant.

Check out www.mountainmadness.com.

Or call them and speak with John Farmer.

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Hey brock... I learned at a community college. It lasted a full quarter, lecture one night during the week, climbing or some other activity on the weekend. In 13 weeks, we climbed 8 summits, spent a day at Olympic Mountain Rescue learning compass work, route finding, and prussiks on their training equipment, spent a weekend at Paradise and dug and slept in a snow cave, performed crevasse rescue on the Roosevelt on Baker and so on. Freedom of the Hills was the text for the course, and while published by the mounties, it is a good reference. This was probably similar to the mountie experience, expect my leaders didn't have egos, and we shared the glaciers...

The bottom line is go with someone experienced on several different types of trips. Dig a cave and sleep in it. Get up on some rock with someone who is competent and patient so you can learn...

Tom

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  • 2 weeks later...

Dan

You're in "Division" weren't ya?. Or maybe The "Screaming Chickens"?

Both are shitbag units riding on the reputations of WWII. Anyone everytell you about the "combat jump" into Panama? 2nd Batt was there for 3 days and had all ready secured the airfield. When all of a sudden the Eighty Duece comes fallling, and starts shooting. The only effective fire 2nd Batt received was from the men of the pink beret.

And just because you were victor qualified doesn't make you a Ranger.

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Originally posted by Dan Larson:

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Dan Larson ]

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Dan Larson ][/QB]

Actually friend I was in division AFTER I did 2 yrs. in 2/75 B co.As far as dissin the 101 my dad was with them in vietnam (lifer)and at least back then they were some squared away troops . I partally grew up at Ft. Campbell in the 60's.I also invaded Panama City back in the 70's got a hooker and a tattoo I don't know about your foes but she was a big one and I almost had her there for a while.In the end she had her way with me however and I could never show my face down there again.The tattoo still is with me however

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Mtnrngr, don't believe all the barracks gossip you hear and check your history books again. 3/504 PIR (Division) was on the ground in Panama at H-Hour. They had deployed to Panama approx. 2 weeks earlier to attend JOTC. That was my unit and I was in Pre-Ranger at Bragg at the time. Also, 1/504 and 2/504 did not jump in 3 days later. My memory may be fading but I believe they jumped at H-hour as well. If they did not jump at H-Hour it was w/in a couple of hours of H-Hour.

By the way, if Larson is anything in person like he is on this board he would have gotten peered out.

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It was H+2 that 2/504 jumped receiving near ineffective which was subsequently suppressed by Spectre onsite. It was this spectres tracers that sent everyone running for the fences, not the PDF which were brushed aside with only one initial casualty.

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: mikeadam ]

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