olyclimber Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 that's a good idea goatboy, but right now we are just concentrated on finding the printer and working out how much these things are going to cost! i'm with you, i want to do this as a quality print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Have you considered offering these to the NCNP to sell in their visitor centers? They may want to sell them, which would entail making a much larger run at the printer.  I'd be very interested in having these posters sold at the visitor centers, as they'd be a popular item I'm sure. I'm not sure who I'd go about contacting, but I was sort of hoping some of the people there might be tuned into cc.com enough to spread the idea to the right people to see if it is a possibility....  Until then, though, it'd be nice to find a good printer to get some nice copies distributed to those who have expressed interest (and to raise some funds too for WCC, of course). It could take awhile to get the park service involved, but I hope that is a future possibility.  -Steph  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 still looking for offset printing. if you have a connection at one of these places, let me know via PM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 bump. i've got one qoute coming, but still looking for "the deal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why don't you contact Kelly Bush at NCNP. She could likely point you towards whomever at NCNP makes the decisions regarding printing/selling stuff at their visitor centers - or at the least, advise you if this is worth pursuing. I point all this out in the hope that it will lead to the best quality production and the widest availability of Steph's excellent product. It may add some red tape and extra effort/coordination, but ultimately, if it's worth doing.... it's worth doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I believe someone has contacted Steph from the NCNP. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky333 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Â I will order one and gladly pay for whatever shipping costs. Plus I will donate to saving the wall even though I will probably never climb there. Love the cascades! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Steph and I are continuing to work on this. We're trying to find the best method for printing based on the image we have. We'll try to keep this thread updated as we figure things out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Some bad news here folks. Steph and I really tried to make this happen, especially in light of that obvious interest in the poster, but unfortunately we're going to need to put the project on hold for a while. Steph is starting school again and doesn't have anytime, and I'm helping put together Sausagefest. Â We are pretty sure that we can make it happen, but until Steph and/or I can free up time to deal with it, it will be on hold. It may seem like a simple task to do it, but the logistics with funding, printing, receiving payment for, and then distributing the poster is more work than you'd think, especially when your schedule is already pegged out. Â We're committed to getting a quality product out, so look for the poster happening in the future. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Sorry everyone, it just turned into too big a job to get the posters printed and distributed. The NPS has expressed some interest, so ideally they will be printing some at some undefined point in time. Â Or, if anyone is interested in taking on the onerous task of printing, collecting money, distributing the posters, etc, let me know! It'd be nice if all those North Cascades enthusiasts out there can get one for their walls, and support the WCC at the same time. Â -Steph Edited October 17, 2009 by Steph_Abegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dross Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Why not put it on CafePress and let them do the printing and shipping? They would print on-demand. Downside is that it would likely reduce the amount of margin you can provide for the fund raiser. But at least it gets the posters into the hands of those interested. Â For example: Here (http://bit.ly/48RXer) is 23" x 35" which is print on-demand for $17.99. You can mark it up however high you want. CafePress handles the shipping and payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 sounds like the deal with the Park might be exclusive. it depends on that, I guess. Â we have people that could do it here, if we get that opportunity. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) I'm disappointed that all the grassroots/community effort that went into this poster is now going to be funneled into a for-proft NPS concessionaire rather than the bro-deal/Index fundraiser this was originally shaping up to be. Â I've not shut the door on making the poster a fundraiser, since that is a great way to get awareness for the WCC project to buy the Lower Town Wall. I am not selling through the NPS INSTEAD of the fundraiser, it was just that they had expressed interest, so I was letting everyone know that the poster would be distributed there in the future, as at the time it was becoming clear to Porter and I that printing/distributing the posters ourselves was WAY too much of a job for us to do ourselves. But, it seems there are others in the cc.com community who could help out with printing and distributing the poster, so hopefully the fundraiser can go ahead as planned. It'd be nice to do the initial run of these posters as a "grass-roots" operation as you mentioned. Â I will make sure this is okay with my contact at the NPS, but they had expressed interest that was independent of the fundraiser, so I don't think it will be an issue. Ideally we can do a 100-200 poster run for the fundraiser, and get some of these posters out there soon! Edited October 17, 2009 by Steph_Abegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Steph, we'll need to be sure that we mention that the WCC Fundraiser bit would be out with a NPS deal (unless they decide they want to do it!). Â But no worries. We're going to have a way for you to contribute at Sausagefest to keep Index climbing accessible on the Lower Town Wall if you so desire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) How about bumper sticker fundraiser.... Â (Never printed this one) Â (I'm the only car running around Seattle with this one) Edited October 16, 2009 by Steph_Abegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 i suspect those won't be as popular as that poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Probably not...but they are a good way to procrastinate..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm disappointed that all the grassroots/community effort that went into this poster is now going to be funneled into a for-proft NPS concessionaire rather than the bro-deal/Index fundraiser this was originally shaping up to be. Â Bro-deal printing: Lower out-of-pocket cost for people that want the poster, some substantial chunk of $$ goes to good cause (saving Index), community warm fuzzy feelings. Â Jo-blow printing in Ohio: Expensive poster, no money for Index, all the people who contributed suggestions/labels/etc in this thread get a slap in the face. Â Steph, I hope you will decide to not go the concessionaire route. I understand it would be more convenient one-stop-shopping for you, but it would kinda ruin the spirit of the thing. I am willing to help with the project if it will help keep it a community project. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph_Abegg Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) I'm disappointed that all the grassroots/community effort that went into this poster is now going to be funneled into a for-proft NPS concessionaire rather than the bro-deal/Index fundraiser this was originally shaping up to be. Â I've not shut the door on making the poster a fundraiser, since that is a great way to get awareness for the WCC project to buy the Lower Town Wall. I am not selling through the NPS INSTEAD of the fundraiser, it was just that they had expressed interest, so I was letting everyone know that the poster would be distributed there in the future, as at the time it was becoming clear to Porter and I that printing/distributing the posters ourselves was WAY too much of a job for us to do ourselves. But, it seems there are others in the cc.com community who could help out with printing and distributing the poster, so hopefully the fundraiser can go ahead as planned. It'd be nice to do the initial run of these posters as a "grass-roots" operation as you mentioned. Â I will make sure this is okay with my contact at the NPS, but they had expressed interest that was independent of the fundraiser, so I don't think it will be an issue. Ideally we can do a 100-200 poster run for the fundraiser, and get some of these posters out there soon! Edited October 17, 2009 by Steph_Abegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowell_Skoog Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Jo-blow printing in Ohio: Expensive poster, no money for Index, all the people who contributed suggestions/labels/etc in this thread get a slap in the face. Â Speaking for myself, I'm not offended by jo-blow printing. I know how difficult it can be to pull off volunteer projects. You do what you have to. Â I am willing to help with the project if it will help keep it a community project. Â That's the spirit! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Yount Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I would certainly like to purchase this map! Offset printing will provide a collectible piece of art that framed becomes a functional memory jiggler and idea spawner. I'd love it to be at least 18x24 (as Steph mentioned this larger size is a standard size). Â Dave Yount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I hope to be able to announce something tomorrow about this, but details are still getting ironed out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moraineboy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I'm disappointed that all the grassroots/community effort that went into this poster is now going to be funneled into a for-proft NPS concessionaire rather than the bro-deal/Index fundraiser this was originally shaping up to be.  Three cheers for the bro-deal grassroots/community effort! To be clear, it is not actually a for-profit concessionaire that sells posters, cards, books, maps, etc at the visitor centers it is a non-profit organization. The organization that will be taking it over starting 2010 is North Cascades Institute. I would venture a guess that most folks on CC would be glad to know what NCI is all about: www.ncascades.org  From their website: North Cascades Institute seeks to inspire a closer relationship with nature through direct experiences in the natural world. Our mission is to conserve and restore Northwest environments through education. Since 1986 we have helped connect people, nature and community through science, art, literature and the hands-on study of natural and cultural history. Our goal is to help people of all ages experience and enjoy the mountains, rivers, forests, people and wildlife of the Pacific Northwest – so all will care for and protect this special place.  North Cascades Institute is committed to innovation and excellence in environmental learning and leadership in the nonprofit community. We believe that sustainable communities are built on healthy environments, vibrant economies and social equity. Toward that end, four key themes run through all our programs:  The convergence of natural and cultural history, science, humanities and the arts Human history as integral to the history of landscapes and wild lands Respect among individuals and the broader community Exploration, reflection and stewardship in the out-of-doors Teaching all ages, we offer:  Seminars and retreats School programs and summer youth adventures Teacher education and internships Volunteer stewardship programs Graduate M.Ed. in environmental education In 2005, North Cascades Institute opened North Cascades Environmental Learning Center. A partnership with the National Park Service and the City of Seattle, the Learning Center is surrounded by millions of acres of protected public lands. It is a hub of discovery into one of the wildest, most biologically diverse landscapes in North America. Learners of all ages come to explore and participate in innovative programs that inspire and enrich their lives.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 This is being printed, thanks to Tod at Edgeworks Climbing, Tacoma. Â It is purely an Index Fund Raiser. Posters will be numbered (this special WCC edition of the print will only have 200 printed) and all proceeds go to the Washington Climbers Coalition Fundraiser. Â I should have a few with me at Sausagefest to include in the raffle. Elsewise they will be available at Edgeworks and other outlets soon. Â Again, all proceeds of the sale go to Index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I wasn't able to be at Fred's show but still want to buy some of these posters... what's the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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