JosephH Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Hopefully they'll beef up the axles compared to the Camalots. Those weak, rattly axle assemblies on the Camalots never sat well with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Yeah, those things break all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemp22 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) From Vegastradguy's RC.com OR show report: RC.com full article link This bad boy first leaked about two weeks ago- check out the latest cam from DMM- the Dragon. So, I’ll answer two quick questions right now- YES, it is a double axle cam, and YES it is as sexy as it looks. The action is amazing on them- as smooth as or better than that other double axle cam, and the look… the hot forged process allows a three dimensional look to be forged into the lobe giving it a hell of an appeal.   Some answers for the folks in the thread about this cam- they’re going to be up to 10% lighter than a C4 in the bigger ranges, a little less than that in the smaller. The color coding you see above is exactly what you think it is- DMM picked the color coding to roughly coincide with BD’s, going with the theory that it’ll make it easier for most folks to grab a cam if they know that hand cracks are the yellow cam, regardless of manufacturer- which is something that I really like, especially since the MaxCam and Link Cam have also done this. Finally, I asked about the Duplex cable system used to connect the 5mm stem cable to the 3.2mm thumb loop cable, and Paul said that its more or less a hub connection just above the thumb loop (think like on a tent) that is swaged right there in three spots- very slick. Finally, look for these cams to price between $74 and $79 a piece and be available in February. Oh, and yes, I asked if they are planning on expanding the set to include smaller (and possibly larger cams) and the answer was a resounding YES. Woohoo!  Edited July 22, 2009 by hemp22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I don't know if anyone else is still interested in these...I just started thinking about rock climbing and remembered these. Anyway, DMM will have the production type at the ISPO tomorrow...released in March?? I've seen a couple shops accepting pre-orders... Â link to full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I don't know if anyone else is still interested in these...I just started thinking about rock climbing and remembered these. Anyway, DMM will have the production type at the ISPO tomorrow...released in March?? I've seen a couple shops accepting pre-orders... link to full article  I was about to upgrade all my BD cams for the newest C4 Camalots till I heard about these. Still waiting anxiously. Hopefully I will have some cash for them by the time they arrive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 I was about to upgrade all my BD cams for the newest C4 Camalots till I heard about these. Still waiting anxiously. Hopefully I will have some cash for them by the time they arrive... Â Gear whore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I was about to upgrade all my BD cams for the newest C4 Camalots till I heard about these. Still waiting anxiously. Hopefully I will have some cash for them by the time they arrive... Â Gear whore! Someday, when I grow up, I'm gonna be a REAL GEAR-HO, like BILLCOE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhound Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I was about to upgrade all my BD cams for the newest C4 Camalots till I heard about these. Still waiting anxiously. Hopefully I will have some cash for them by the time they arrive... Â Gear whore! Someday, when I grow up, I'm gonna be a REAL GEAR-HO, like BILLCOE... Â no you need to have 20+ ropes each in there own labeled rope bag for that to happen!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) FYI -- http://rockclimbingcompany.blogspot.com/2010/02/dmm-dragon-cams.html  Looks like they did away with the thumb loop on the production Dragons. Which is awesome, I wont be tempted to upgrade my rack lol. Edited February 9, 2010 by robpatterson5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Yeah, those things break all the time i was thinking the same thing...why i think those camalots must be called breakalots! sheesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 LOL! Â Revised DMM cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I was about to upgrade all my BD cams for the newest C4 Camalots till I heard about these. Still waiting anxiously. Hopefully I will have some cash for them by the time they arrive... Â Gear whore! Someday, when I grow up, I'm gonna be a REAL GEAR-HO, like BILLCOE... Â no you need to have 20+ ropes each in there own labeled rope bag for that to happen!! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Are the slings on these cams basically the same as the light 8mm Mammuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Are the slings on these cams basically the same as the light 8mm Mammuts? Â Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I've read several folks say they change these out every few years or so. I've found that mine last about 3 years before they're so tattered that I start losing confidence in them. Seems like a nice cam but would you consider this a 'con'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfinger Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 nope, problem with double sling cams is they do add a lot of bulk and clutter to a rack sling or harness gear loop, so thinner is great with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannible Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I've read several folks say they change these out every few years or so. I've found that mine last about 3 years before they're so tattered that I start losing confidence in them. Seems like a nice cam but would you consider this a 'con'? Â I was thinking that same thing when I first saw these. My friend's skinny slings are about 4 years old I think and we've been starting to worry about them. You don't want to buy these fancy expensive cams and have to pay to resling them every few years. I do like that you can extend them though. Seem worth the bulk because it means less draws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 look shittier for aiding b/c you can't clip/fifi as close to the piece as w/ a camalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiente Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm not that excited about cams with extendable slings on them. I used to own a rack of Trango cams that were set-up with double slings on them. I found that I never used the slings in "extended" mode. When I actually needed to put a runner on the cam, the extended sling was too short to make much of a difference and I would end up just putting a proper runner on it. The rest of the time I was too gripped to fiddle around with extending the sling and would just clip the rope in the "normal" way.  -Nate  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm not that excited about cams with extendable slings on them. I used to own a rack of Trango cams that were set-up with double slings on them. I found that I never used the slings in "extended" mode. When I actually needed to put a runner on the cam, the extended sling was too short to make much of a difference and I would end up just putting a proper runner on it. The rest of the time I was too gripped to fiddle around with extending the sling and would just clip the rope in the "normal" way.  -Nate  agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfinger Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Just got a few of these, haven't tried them out but they're pretty damn sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I've been using the red, gold and blue since June. They have been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfinger Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I'm not that excited about cams with extendable slings on them. I used to own a rack of Trango cams that were set-up with double slings on them. I found that I never used the slings in "extended" mode. When I actually needed to put a runner on the cam, the extended sling was too short to make much of a difference and I would end up just putting a proper runner on it. The rest of the time I was too gripped to fiddle around with extending the sling and would just clip the rope in the "normal" way.  -Nate  agree    Gonna have to call you guys on that claim, unless you use slings too long to be called quickdraws, based on the picture, I don't see how much longer a draw is and how exactly is the normal way--having to reach for a draw, clip it to the cam sling and the regrab the rope to clip--so much easier? All one has to do is unclip a strand and clip the rope.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 now add a shoulder length sling instead of the draw. i really don't care, just agreeing about the practicality on hard pitches. I also haven't used them so i really don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfinger Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) Well the doubled sling does seem more like the proper homage by its resemblance to his image that you should be paying his holy noodleliness! Perhaps that is why he makes you suffer..... Â FSM forever! Edited September 30, 2010 by Coldfinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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