RuMR Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... fat guys stand on da feet!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i think your above list simply indicates you are a sport climbing prodigy, whilst sucking at trad....blah, blah, blah, blah There's a seat waiting for you right next to DeChristo. Now go climb back into your cubicle and make some money for the boss, li'l feller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 gee rainy, should be an easy wager for you and all since modern sport climbing routes are all so massively overrated!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 gee rainy, should be an easy wager for you and all since modern sport climbing routes are all so massively overrated!! gee RumRy, I could really care less if sport grades are soft or whatever...I'm only involved in this topic because I stick up for my friends, in this case, a) Donini, a former boss of mine and an alpine master b) "pope", my long-time climbing buddy, and a very good climber indeed. Do you stick up for your buddies? or do you stand by and watch while they get peed upon? Got any buddies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 do you stand by and watch while they get peed upon? the way you both get peed on, i'm kinda thinking you're into the whole watersports thing; any truth to this observation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 gee rainy, should be an easy wager for you and all since modern sport climbing routes are all so massively overrated!! gee RumRy, I could really care less if sport grades are soft or whatever...I'm only involved in this topic because I stick up for my friends, in this case, a) Donini, a former boss of mine and an alpine master b) "pope", my long-time climbing buddy, and a very good climber indeed. Do you stick up for your buddies? or do you stand by and watch while they get peed upon? Got any buddies? hey tool...didya notice i didn't rip ya until you told kimmo to sit down? duh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i prefer Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner to this dialogue. Get a room or take it to spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 From ST, an old Brutus of Wyde take on grades on a topo he was sharing is worth bringing up again: "Brutus, chewing his cud, ruminates on the porch of the Old Climbers' Home, spits toward the spitoon in the corner, then shuffles off into his room, returning an hour later with a fist full of soiled, wrinkled papers from writings of long ago... Well, I've got a few notes written down here... Reasons for seemingly mis-rated routes: 1. The route has changed since it was rated. 2. You have changed since the route was rated. 3. Ratings have changed since the route was rated. 4. Equipment has changed since the route was rated. 5. Climbing styles, techniques, preferences, and popularity have changed since the route was rated. 6. The universe has changed since the route was rated 7. The route was originally mis-rated 8. The first ascentionist had poor self-esteem 9. The first ascentionist had delusions of grandeur 10. The first ascentionist had a huge ego, coupled with a twisted sense of humor and a large dose of false humility, and fists 12" in diameter. 11. The first ascentionist was off-route. 12. You were off route. 13. The guidebook was off-route. 14. East Coast climbs are harder for a given rating. 15. West Coast Climbs are harder for a given rating, except in Black Velvet Canyon, Red Rocks, Nevada, which we shouldn't use as an example since it isn't on the coast anyways, and on Cloud Tower, but no one really believes that Toni Bbub soloed Chrimson Chrysalis round trip from the Visitors' Center in 23.584 seconds so that doesn't really count either 16. The route is located in the California High Sierra, and was rated 4th Class 50 years ago 17. The route is located in the Bernese Oberland, and was rated 4th class 90 years ago 18. The route was first ascended by John Bachar, who (as he later confessed) at the time had no clue as to what grade inflation was taking place in the world outside his own first ascents. 19. The route is an Offwidth. 20. The route is not an Offwidth. 21. YES, THE ROUTE IS A D*MN OFFWIDTH!!! 22. Bullsh*t. If you say that, you're not a Real Climber . If you'd shed a few pounds, you would see that the route is obviously a squeeze chimney. Stupid IDIOT! 23. Oh. Well, I laybacked it. Seemed casual 5.7, not 5.12 24. The route actually needs 3 ratings, and the rating system does not take this into account: 4th, 5.7x, 5.12f [Guidebook shows route as 4th class, climbed in 1950 by Koontz and Hayes in work boots... Modern guidebook would place the difficulty at 5.7 x because there is no place to protect, hence the original 4th class rating, but there is one section that is 5.12 if you have the wingspan of a finch.] 25. The first ascent party climbed the route in mountaineering boots with tricouni nails, an alpenstock, and 60 pound packs. 26. In winter. 27. During a drought. 28. With helecopter support, for a movie about Hugo Hardcore and the Master Monk. 29. The route has not yet been climbed. 30. Coffee. 31. No coffee. 32. The route was first climbed by Tobin Sorenson and Gib Lewis. 33. The route was not first climbed, today, by r...@chartist.com, and hence was rated differently than what rob and his partner would rate it. 34. The rating is based on an intricate sequence worked out by Chris "Speedy" Gonzales of RMRU on top rope over many months, and if you place pro in the only viable location, you've just clogged up a crucial jam. Shoulda soloed it. 35. John Bachar worked out the sequence on a top rope prior to leading the climb, something the guidebook failed to mention, and they left out the R/X rating too 36. The route description, rating, and topo have the following text etched in the lower right hand corner, visible only with electron micrograph when held over an unlit candle under a full moon on the 6th of July. [All routes have this disclaimer, by the way. If you don't believe me, get your own scanning electron microscope and check it out for yourself!] "Summary and Disclaimer: This rating, this description, and this topo, are based on dim recollections, misguided conscenses, half-baked guesses, and outright lies, and in NO WAY do they even ATTEMPT to tell the full story. Loose rock, weather, and excessive consumption of alcohol are among countless factors that will KILL you when attempting this route. If you can't take responsibility for your own safety, for your own decisions and knowledge, if you can't climb at your own risk, if you or your survivors are the kind who would try to sue the author of a topo or a guidebook, PLEASE stay far far away from this route, give up climbing, and die of some completely natural, painful, slowly progressive disease. Thank you." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i prefer Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner to this dialogue. Get a room or take it to spray. Uh..Porter. This turned to spray on page one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Somehow missed Brutus' take on the subject - pretty well sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i prefer Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner to this dialogue. Get a room or take it to spray. ya really think i care about your preferences? and your arbitrary differentiations between spray and non-spray? you guessed it. so go ahead and ban me, bitch; you'd be doing me a favor. and thanks, buddy, for sticking up for me; that raindawg is a meanie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I can ban you for the following prices: 1 day = 20 dollars 1 week = 100 dollars 1 year = 1000 dollars All funds are U.S. dollars. No problem sticking up for you! I think mostly that Raindawg is impaired such that he mainly has to communicate with pictures to express himself fully. He likely lacks the necessary vocabulary to communicate fully in the written form. It is possible that part of his hippocampus is damaged, but this is pure speculation. I do enjoy Sunday morning cartoons. Another good one is the one with the mouse and the cat entitled "Tom and Jerry". Its just that most people are here about climbing and climbing talk, not to see people bash each other over the head with a mallet (no matter how lovingly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_H Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 That Wil E. Coyote is such a kook. I kind of wish he'd catch that Road Runner at least once though. He doesn't seem like such a bad guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i prefer Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner to this dialogue. Get a room or take it to spray. Uh..Porter. This turned to spray on page one. In case y'all haven't noticed, EVERY thread in the rock climbing forum eventually morphs into an exploration of one or more of the following themes: 1 - why bolts are actually the first harbinger of the apocalypse. 2 - why crusty the armchair clown climbed harder in the 70s in EBs than Chris Sharma does today. 3 - why one route, crag, or genital appendage is better than another. Someone should write a little software to generate these threads - it would save these guys some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 That Wil E. Coyote is such a kook. I kind of wish he'd catch that Road Runner at least once though. He doesn't seem like such a bad guy. At least he keeps the Washington economy going. I was just in Acme the other day and it was sporting a brand new warehouse full of dynamite, hammers, rocket skis etc. all waiting for coyote purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 the way you both get peed on, i'm kinda thinking you're into the whole watersports thing; any truth to this observation? Nope...ain't my thing. You're going to have to troll elsewhere for your like-minded excretory-fascinated brethren. hey tool...didya notice i didn't rip ya until you told kimmo to sit down? duh.... First evidence ever that you were my "buddy". "Kimmo"'s a joke and probably someone's double avatar. I think mostly that Raindawg is impaired such that he mainly has to communicate with pictures to express himself fully. He likely lacks the necessary vocabulary to communicate fully in the written form. It is possible that part of his hippocampus is damaged, but this is pure speculation. yah...I guess that's why I'm a well-published author writing books just for the likes of you. Perhaps you didn't show up that day in art history class when the professor lectured on the the symbolic nature of imagery...I guess that requires, first, going to college....oh never mind. You are, however, welcome to attempt to interpret, with all your assumptive wisdom, what the following might have to do with the nature of sport-climbing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillygoat Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Crazy! That dude looks like a hand all holdin' an egg, 'n shit! You just KNOW Dali was trippin' ballz!!!11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 This gorilla's gonna shiv you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 That Wil E. Coyote is such a kook. I kind of wish he'd catch that Road Runner at least once though. He doesn't seem like such a bad guy. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIGvuY08Uw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosterson Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 PLEASE stay far far away from this route, give up climbing, and die of some completely natural, painful, slowly progressive disease. I think that's pretty much the only sane response to caring about route grading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 "Kimmo"'s a joke and probably someone's double avatar. Right, because if you don't know Kimmo, he can't really be a climber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 So when is a mod going to to put this in spray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 "Kimmo"'s a joke and probably someone's double avatar. Right, because if you don't know Kimmo, he can't really be a climber. No, dude...it's because his manner of discourse seemed very, very familiar. (And what does having a double avatar have to do with being or not being a climber? I never said this guy wasn't. There are/were several folks around here with multiple "avatars", some who were quite the active climbers.) So when is a mod going to to put this in spray? Looking for company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Well, I figure Peter started it and was fully cognizant of where it would go, and this is really his forum, I'm more an adjunct mod, so I'll leave it to him to pull the plug. It's less rancorous than many a climbing related slugfest, and there are some good on topic points in here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ratings shmatings. The rock is dry, the weather is good so get out there and climb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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