snoboy Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Last week, Mike Weigle, the owner of Canadian Mountain Holidays (big heli-ski outfit in the Monashees) called for all bc sledding to be banned in BC due to all the deaths and general stupidity. In part, he cited "stress to his staff" because of all the body recoveries they were doing, including one where the victim's face had been chewed off by wild animals. I hadn't heard about that, but I doubt it will ever fly. The snomo industry is far too organized and has money... Just a point - Wiegle is not the owner of CMH - he owns Mike Wiegle Heli skiing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmace Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I know what you guys mean...I thought to myself when I was getting towed into Joffre Creek this winter, man these snowmobilers are assholes, who do they think they are saving me 2 hours of approach time. You should be banned from BC backcountry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. so what kind of snowmobile do u have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. so what kind of snowmobile do u have? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I know what you guys mean...I thought to myself when I was getting towed into Joffre Creek this winter, man these snowmobilers are assholes, who do they think they are saving me 2 hours of approach time. You should be banned from BC backcountry... it's clear why you find this a good thing -looking at some dude's ass for 4 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. so what kind of snowmobile do u have? ask your mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. so what kind of snowmobile do u have? LOLZROFLERZ! Zappa Zappa Zappa Edited May 12, 2009 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeezix Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Nothing much changes. I saw snowmobilers ignoring the wilderness boundary on the N side of Adams back around 1983. I hate snowmobiles. I could see having one if you lived in the Methow, to be used to pull a little tracksetting implement around your property for grooming nordic ski tracks. Recreational snowmobiling is simply incompatible, inappropriate, and environmentally damaging and unsustainable. Bunch of fat fucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile. so what kind of snowmobile do u have? ask your mom. nice kaskadkozakawasaki!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 lets the good times ROLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 oh, so you are one of the fat lazy redneck fucks then too? If only you knew. For what it is or isnt worth the local MT snowmobiler organization helped out greatly in fighting for getting the road plowed for Hyalite canyon. IMO as access to our public lands becomes more and more threatened/limited through privatization fighting for what you and I want will require a louder, more unified voice. To accomplish this will require getting more climbers to give a shit (good luck) or aligning with other user groups that have similar goals (i.e. perserve access). Like snowmobilers, hunters, packers, etc etc Yes they shouldn’t have violated the wilderness boundary. Yes snowmobiles are noisy. Life isn’t fair sometimes. Word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 For what it is or isnt worth the local MT snowmobiler organization helped out greatly in fighting for getting the road plowed for Hyalite canyon. IMO as access to our public lands becomes more and more threatened/limited through privatization fighting for what you and I want will require a louder, more unified voice. To accomplish this will require getting more climbers to give a shit (good luck) or aligning with other user groups that have similar goals (i.e. perserve access). Like snowmobilers, hunters, packers, etc etc Yes they shouldn’t have violated the wilderness boundary. Yes snowmobiles are noisy. Life isn’t fair sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'm going to stand next to my boys, John Frieh, JayB and Fairweather. We should be looking at how to increase funding and general support for public lands and our management priorities are not necessarily adverse to the snowmobile crowd. I'm for human powered over gasoline powered recreation, for sure, and I have had my share of conflicts with rev-heads, but we all want access and I'm pretty sure that most of us will agree that different places will be appropriate for different activities and that those pesky snowmobilers or climbers or fisherman are not likely to disappear. Most probably even agree that there may be some areas where it would be cool to run natural or game preserves not for recreational use or minimally so. But we disagree when it comes to how much and where, for sure. There is a lot of common ground and we should be looking to build broader coalitions, not fighting with other interest groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Word. Secure/preserve access first, then squabble over which user groups get priority for what and when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 It's a little known fact that the literal translation from the original Greek of The Revelation of St. John describes the four "horse"men of the apocalypse riding snow machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Word. Secure/preserve access first, then squabble over which user groups get priority for what and when. so, use the fat douchebags to get access, then stab them in their hefty backside to get them out of primo climbing areas? I could go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good2Go Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I am a sledder and I can out climb and out ski you any day. Happy to prove it whenever you're ready Fatty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I am a sledder ...Happy to prove it whenever you're ready Fatty. Hi Fatty, I believe you - you are definitely a "sledder". I bet you could beat me at triggering avalanches and breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 The human-vs-gas powered access divide reminds me of the fly-vs-bait fisherman divide. There can be some serious demographic/cultural divides to cross, but in my experience - a bit of waving, smiling, and chatting (like 30 seconds) is all that's required to keep the overt mutual loathing to a minimum during the interactions. If someone is high-marking above you on a loaded slope, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 The human-vs-gas powered access divide reminds me of the fly-vs-bait fisherman divide. also the trad versus sport semi divide old versus new I wish I had a snowmobile...would save a lot of time in winter on those logging roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 oh, so you are one of the fat lazy redneck fucks then too? If only you knew. For what it is or isnt worth the local MT snowmobiler organization helped out greatly in fighting for getting the road plowed for Hyalite canyon. IMO as access to our public lands becomes more and more threatened/limited through privatization fighting for what you and I want will require a louder, more unified voice. To accomplish this will require getting more climbers to give a shit (good luck) or aligning with other user groups that have similar goals (i.e. perserve access). Like snowmobilers, hunters, packers, etc etc Yes they shouldn’t have violated the wilderness boundary. Yes snowmobiles are noisy. Life isn’t fair sometimes. Word. then don't be support big goerment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I am a sledder and I can out climb and out ski you any day. Happy to prove it whenever you're ready Fatty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Everything you repost is now twice as funny, thanks to Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Snowmobilers and piano wire. Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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