bretjohnston Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) hi my name is bret johnston.on saturday 4/18 i went out to the infamous world wall 1 to try my project porn star. to do so i put some long draws on the lower section abo. i came back sunday and they were still there. so somewhere between sunday 4/19 and tueday 4/21 someone climbed abo and took all of my draws off of the climb. this is not cool! to anyone and everyone who climbs at any washington crag, keep and eye out for five or six older extended metolius draws. two of the draws stolen were petzl sponsor draws so not many people have them. to whoever took these draws off of abo. this is rediculous. have some respect. these do not belong to you! i climb all over the cascades and unles you intend to keep them in your garage, i will see you. sincerely, bret johnston Edited April 23, 2009 by bretjohnston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Its probably best to take your pro out when you leave for the day... Many people might think you left the pieces because you could not finish the climb and that maybe you were not coming back. If i were you i would not leave any QDs for more than a day unless you were coming back in the morning. Thats just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korup Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 rediculous? Ridiculous. QD's? People get the entire contents of their cars jacked at Little Si. That would warrant a FULL CAPITAL LETTER TITLE. Old grotty QD's? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric8 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah, that is what I thought at first that there was a major break in. Sucks someone took your draws but you did leave them on the most popular route there. Probably just ask for them back instead of threating folks "i will see, you quadruple explanation points" with that attitude whoever took them should probably just keep them and take there chances. After all they can probably just track your location on 8a.nu and only use them when you start logging ascents elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Its the end of a weekend, getting dark out and i see some quickdraws. Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obwan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 OMG - The Exit 38 Bandit?? Sorry, had to beat Dru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcJizzy Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 have some respect. these do not belong to you! And the cliff does not belong to you, and if your junk goes missing, it is because you tempted fate. Grow up and get over yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankstoneline Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Why not "project" on top rope until you can climb it, then lead it? Seems pointless to leave draws on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretjohnston Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 i am aware that the cliff doesnt belong to me, but the equipment does. im sorry if i came off a little hard on the post but all i was trying to do was make a statement that steeling a whole climbs worth of draws isnt cool. my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 No problamo Bret, but if your QDs get snached after leaving them up there for more than 24 H's, there gone. Good luck on climbing that route, though. Whats it rated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 does this mean that someone not only stole yr QDs but the FA on yr climb? haha punkd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretjohnston Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 i guess we dont see eye to eye on this one. its like saying that you cant park your car out side of your home for more than 24 hrs. although it doesnt belong to the thief they are still capable of breaking in and taking it. is that ethical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Maybe someone set your gear at the bottom of the climb because they wanted to climb that route and didnt trust your "older" gear, then a flatlands park ranger picked it up thinking it was trash (ok that was dumb, but really). Is sorta how people leave webbing and when it looks old people cut it off. I think its fine to leave gear but when other people are wanting to climb that same route... Is it ethical to park your car on the sidewalk and expect it not to get towed? Edited April 23, 2009 by CollinWoods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcJizzy Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Is it ethical to park your car on the sidewalk and expect it not to get towed? Good point! If I was you, I'd go steal a bunch of draws from the VW Score Colin: 1 Bret: -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretjohnston Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 this isnt a competition mr jizzy, its a conversation and colin has a good point. i guess i shouldnt have faith that people wont take my gear off of climbs. ive learned my lesson and i wount ever do it again. the real reason this made me so angry is because once i was done with porn star i was going to use those draws to replace all the nasty ones on climbs such as chronic and the whore of babylon which some need to be replaced badly. now i dont have enough to do that. they were going to be donated but now they are gone because of some yahoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 i was going to use those draws to replace all the nasty ones on climbs such as chronic and the whore of babylon which some need to be replaced badly. I'm confused. Clearly I don't sport-climb enough. There are draws hanging on these other climbs? Don't people place draws themselves anymore while sport climbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Whats it rated? too me eet felt like 5.10-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm confused. Clearly I don't sport-climb enough. There are draws hanging on these other climbs? Don't people place draws themselves anymore while sport climbing? HAHAHAHA! Your old-timey notions amuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretjohnston Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 its very common these days for very popular harder route to have fixed draws on them. Chronic is one of those and they havnt been replaced in a long time. almost all the extensions off of abo and psycho have draws hanging on them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcJizzy Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 this isnt a competition mr jizzy, its a conversation and colin has a good point. I like keeping score. And if there were points for grammar and spelling.... they were going to be donated but now they are gone because of some yahoo. Like I said, go rip off VW. Do you really expect us to believe that the owners son of VW has a huge deficit of quick draws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 its very common these days for very popular harder route to have fixed draws on them. Makes sense. When a lead is over my head, I prefer to have pre-placed gear, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Haha about 2 posts ago, i was going to add that although i am passing english i dont know grammar or spelling for (inset word that starts with 's' here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 And if there were points for grammar and spelling.... just. wot. are. ewe. saeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Speaking of heads, my head nearly exploded when I read this on my snacky treats package earlier today: Serving Size: 1 Container # Servings per Container: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Speaking of heads, my head nearly exploded when I read this on my snacky treats package earlier today: # Serving Size (1 Container) # Servings per Container: 2 Nice. What was that on??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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