Fairweather Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Arrogant, holier-than-thou, cult-like pricks clinging to a dying sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt_3pin Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Arrogant? Usually. Holier-than-thou? For the most part. Cult-like? Absolutely. Dying sport? I don't think so: Â mHRKiT_dX1U Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 The skis have gotten wider  The boots have gotten taller  The bindings have gotten beefier  The gear is now heavier than rondo   ...all that's left to do is secure the heel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt_3pin Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Â ...all that's left to do is secure the heel! Â Please. That would make face planting much more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Arrogant, holier-than-thou, cult-like pricks clinging to a dying sport? someone sounds a bit jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 someone sounds a bit jealous. Â Somebody sounds as if they may not know what they are talking about. Telemark gear is or can be heavier than some AT gear, and it is not as safe as AT, and if I were to learn to ski these days I doubt I'd bother with Telemark technique, ... but it definitely has its advantages when it comes to real backcountry skiing. Head over hill and dale for a day, climb over logs in the woods and cross creeks on stepping stones, and ski alpine descents that are anything less than truly extreme, and the Telemark guys have a real advantage. Telemark boots are more comfortable for hiking, too (something anybody with much Cascades skiiing experience has done more than a few times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 heels and minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 gimme a sweet hand crack any day...either form of skiing is GHEY! :wazzup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 and you know you want this guy too rudy  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 nah...i'm more the She-Ra type of guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 hey...is that ring angle claw?? S C A R Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I'm to old, and knees are to shot to start to tele now. Certainly never have been cool enough to get initiated into the tele cult. Love my rando set up, although it is heavy. At least it aint snowboarding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008  Telemark gear is or can be heavier than some AT gear, and it is not as safe as AT  Exactly   ... but it definitely has its advantages when it comes to real backcountry skiing. Head over hill and dale for a day, climb over logs in the woods and cross creeks on stepping stones, and ski alpine descents that are anything less than truly extreme, and the Telemark guys have a real advantage.  This statement is totally wrong.   Telemark boots are more comfortable for hiking, too (something anybody with much Cascades skiing experience has done more than a few times).   Yeah whatever. Now in the old days when tele folks were skiing in leather boots without full shanks I might agree, but it's been a long time since tele folks were skiing leather boots and three pin bindings. Today Tele boots are just crappy versions of AT boots.  Now if we go back in time to the 50s most people in the northwest were skiing AT setups. Slightly different, but you locked your heal to descend. How can I say this? Well I know a ton of local NW backcountry skiers from the old days. They've all told me about the way things were. Hell I never met him but I know people who skied with Dr. Spickard (you have heard of Mount Spickard) He and all of them were on AT.  It's only in modern times that tele got a boost. Where did it get it it's boost? A bunch of dirty hippies gave it the kick.   All I have to say is:  1) Take a shower 2) Get a haircut 3) Lock your heals on descent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Ever noticed you see more telemark turns into the liftline or at the base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder206 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 If certain people play this thread right, cc.com could have some comic relief from the bolt vs. trad cesspool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Tele's cool AT is cool Downhill is cool . . . . . knuckle draggers on the other hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 knuckle draggers on the other hand.... Â I like the annual splitboarder gaypride parade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 is the one having the most fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Arrogant, holier-than-thou, cult-like pricks clinging to a dying sport? someone sounds a bit jealous. Â Â He's just bummed that he can't make tele turns with a fixed heel but I can make parallel turns just fine on tele gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 but I can make parallel turns just fine on tele gear  isn't that the core of modern tele skiing? parallel everywhere but the oh so cool liftline stretch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder206 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Tele's cool AT is cool Downhill is cool  No. It’s black or white. You have to choose up sides. You’re for one side and against the others. You’re either for us or you’re against us. There’s no role for reason or ambiguity. Only crude personal attacks and anger determine what and who is acceptable. This is cc.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Tele's cool AT is cool Downhill is cool  No. It’s black or white. You have to choose up sides. You’re for one side and against the others. You’re either for us or you’re against us. There’s no role for reason or ambiguity. Only crude personal attacks and anger determine what and who is acceptable. This is cc.com.  stfu n00b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 skiing sucks ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 skiing sucks ass  only if you tele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafilax Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Isn't telemark Norwegian for "Hey guys, wait up!" Â All I have to say is breakable crust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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