tvashtarkatena Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) Increase demand for oil at a time of record oil prices and sagging supply, then increase the deficit; this dinosaur doesn't just stay the course, he fossilizes it. link John, you calcified visionary, you! Edited April 15, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Thanks for the reminder that this electoral go-round they all suck. "Pandering From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In politics, pandering is to portray one's views to fit in line with a certain crowd of voters the candidate is attempting to impress, when often, these are not the candidate's true beliefs. A candidate may engage in pandering out of desperation if s/he is already losing a race, or if polls taken prior to an election show others as being in the lead. " ...or see Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain for specific current "Pandering" examples. Assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 What a maverick!! Mr. McCain, who made no mention of his previous pledge to balance the budget by the end of his first term, outlined a long list of tax cuts he favored in the speech, which was delivered on the deadline for filing taxes. He called once again for making the Bush tax cuts, which he voted against, permanent, and for cutting corporate taxes, phasing out the alternative minimum tax and doubling the value of exemptions for each dependent to $7,000 from $3,500. He also proposed giving people the option of using a simpler, shorter tax form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Thanks for the reminder that this electoral go-round they all suck. "Pandering From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In politics, pandering is to portray one's views to fit in line with a certain crowd of voters the candidate is attempting to impress, when often, these are not the candidate's true beliefs. A candidate may engage in pandering out of desperation if s/he is already losing a race, or if polls taken prior to an election show others as being in the lead. " ...or see Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain for specific current "Pandering" examples. Assholes. but isnt' this theoritical democracy in action? a candidate kisses our ass to get elected, and once elected, is in the position of having to put his money where his mouth was? isn't that a good thing? is it fair to call the winner of a mud-wrestling match "dirty?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It's just as much the electorate's fault. Once they pull they lever they go back to watching Survior or whatever, thinking - "well, my job is done here". Few folks want to actively participate to make any difference, and the politicials know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It's just as much the electorate's fault. Once they pull they lever they go back to watching Survior or whatever, thinking - "well, my job is done here". Few folks want to actively participate to make any difference, and the politicials know it. Exhibit A: http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=lb-110-2-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hey, you gotta keep housing prices rising at 15% per year and make them more affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It's just as much the electorate's fault. Once they pull they lever they go back to watching Survior or whatever, thinking - "well, my job is done here". Few folks want to actively participate to make any difference, and the politicials know it. Not me. After I pull the lever I want to enjoy a nice pint and sandwich courtesy of Jim who will of course be decked out in GOP regalia and my sister’s old McCain POW bracelet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It's just as much the electorate's fault. Once they pull they lever they go back to watching Survior or whatever, thinking - "well, my job is done here". Few folks want to actively participate to make any difference, and the politicials know it. Exhibit A: http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=lb-110-2-35 I'm getting an aneurysm over the idiots in D.C. and they're lack of fiscal sense. Why not just burn the money. And PP - if Hil and Barack keep tripping over themselves you may have a chance. But I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Well - at least they managed to keep the tariffs high on American exports to Columbia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Few folks want to actively participate to make any difference, and the politicials know it. does spraying on teh innerwebs count as active participation? if not, what does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I do agree with his suggestion to cut the 18 cent fed tax on gas for a bit. That would have been smarter than the "stimulus" bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I do agree with his suggestion to cut the 18 cent fed tax on gas for a bit. That would have been smarter than the "stimulus" bullshit. 18 cents doesn't amount to shit when you consider that prices went up at least 60 cents in the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 It's a start. My monthly gas bill is around $600, so that's what--thirty bucks a month? $360 a year? I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 It's a start. My monthly gas bill is around $600, so that's what--thirty bucks a month? $360 a year? I'll take it. I'll take the $2100 stimulus rebate, thanks. You're just sore because you're rich and don't get any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I want my 30 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) I do agree with his suggestion to cut the 18 cent fed tax on gas for a bit. That would have been smarter than the "stimulus" bullshit. "Vote for me and I'll give you sum free shit*" rocks. Edited April 17, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 *Your kids'll be paying for it. I don't have any, so I say let's fucking party! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREETOAD Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 stimulus to do what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I do agree with his suggestion to cut the 18 cent fed tax on gas for a bit. That would have been smarter than the "stimulus" bullshit. "Vote for me and I'll give you sum free shit*" rocks. I wouldn't vote for Grampa McCain if he were the last politician on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt_3pin Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 It's a start. My monthly gas bill is around $600, so that's what--thirty bucks a month? $360 a year? I'll take it. What do you drive and why do you drive it so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Well dt thats only 200 gallons of gas, say she gets 30 MPG, like an intelligent person would who was driving that much, thats only 6000 miles a month. I use @ 80 gallons, but use it for some deliveries for business in addition to screwing around skiing and climbing, so what would I get from J McCain? $14.? Oh boy, 2 happy meals. Wonder how they would make up the revenue that they didn't get from the gas tax there. Maybe they could just increase our income taxes or borrow more from the Chinese like they are already doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 "only 6000 a month"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 that's 70,000 a year. i didn't know she was a trucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 that's 70,000 a year. i didn't know she was a trucker. What, you don't listen to her talk or read her posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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