I HAT E MY FUCKING JOB...

[Bug]

Find bliss while keeping the brain active.

Hard to find for most. That's why I like the European model of month long holidays. Just think how you would feel after a month off. I am a contractor at Microsoft and do just that. 100 days off after each year. It reconnects me with what I liked about my job.

Perception is everything.

All that you know is just a variation on basic energy theory.

Call it the big bang, quantum physics, God, or whatever.

We are all just vibrations in a very large stew.

If you are not happy, it will reverbrate into every part of you and make you sick.

Feed your young but don't sacrifice your health.

[minx]

i hate my fucking life today. does that count?

[Hugh Conway]

OK, so Delillo is easy...better example: my senior seminar was on Ulysses by James Joyce...I think deciphering that piece of crap is akin to cloning DNA. I could be wrong, but it sure seemed that way at the time... Funny, when I went back to school later in life, I took all the science and math classes I didn't have to take as an English major and found it so freeing to use a different side of the brain, and fun.

 

I'm not seeing your point. Particle Physicists read novels like Finnegan's Wake. English professors read navels of comely undergrads.

 

and who is smarter?

 

The drunk at the bar. Duh.

 

different strokes for different folks, name your poison, etc

 

fine. your dad is smarter than my dad

[olyclimber]

OK, so Delillo is easy...better example: my senior seminar was on Ulysses by James Joyce...I think deciphering that piece of crap is akin to cloning DNA. I could be wrong, but it sure seemed that way at the time... Funny, when I went back to school later in life, I took all the science and math classes I didn't have to take as an English major and found it so freeing to use a different side of the brain, and fun.

 

I'm not seeing your point. Particle Physicists read novels like Finnegan's Wake. English professors read navels of comely undergrads.

 

and who is smarter?

 

The drunk at the bar. Duh.

 

different strokes for different folks, name your poison, etc

 

fine. your dad is smarter than my dad

 

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[RuMR]

Ah, the voice of youth.

 

All that shit changes when you have people depending on you for food and housing.

Exactly...

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Ah, the voice of youth.

 

All that shit changes when you have people depending on you for food and housing.

Exactly...

 

Fuck idealism. Fuck work.

 

If you want freedom, climb.

[selkirk]

Ah, the voice of youth.

 

All that shit changes when you have people depending on you for food and housing.

 

Says the single girl (I'm not quite sure that dogs count )

[rob]

hey, can I play? I hate my fucking job, too!

[selkirk]

Funny, the university I attended had four year programs for both liberal arts degrees and science degrees.

 

I went to the same school, and you could get out in 4 years with an engineering degree, but only if everything went to spec. Fail a class, decide you want a minor, decide to do something out of order, or an extended internship and it almost immediately added either a semester or year.

On the flip side Mrs. Selkirk came out in 4 years with BA's in Poli. Sci. and Philosophy and a minor in French mostly because she'd damn smart, but partially because a great deal of her coursework did double duty.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Funny, the university I attended had four year programs for both liberal arts degrees and science degrees.

 

I went to the same school, and you could get out in 4 years with an engineering degree, but only if everything went to spec. Fail a class, decide you want a minor, decide to do something out of order, or an extended internship and it almost immediately added either a semester or year.

On the flip side Mrs. Selkirk came out in 4 years with BA's in Poli. Sci. and Philosophy and a minor in French mostly because she'd damn smart, but partially because a great deal of her coursework did double duty.

 

It was virtually impossible to get an engineering degree from the UC system when I was there in anything under 5 years.

[Hugh Conway]

Funny, the university I attended had four year programs for both liberal arts degrees and science degrees.

 

I went to the same school, and you could get out in 4 years with an engineering degree, but only if everything went to spec. Fail a class, decide you want a minor, decide to do something out of order, or an extended internship and it almost immediately added either a semester or year.

On the flip side Mrs. Selkirk came out in 4 years with BA's in Poli. Sci. and Philosophy and a minor in French mostly because she'd damn smart, but partially because a great deal of her coursework did double duty.

 

The actual Butt in Seat/Lab class time was ~1.5x longer for Science/Engineering at my University

[grtmtnchic]

Find bliss while keeping the brain active.

Hard to find for most. That's why I like the European model of month long holidays. Just think how you would feel after a month off. I am a contractor at Microsoft and do just that. 100 days off after each year. It reconnects me with what I liked about my job.

Perception is everything.

All that you know is just a variation on basic energy theory.

Call it the big bang, quantum physics, God, or whatever.

We are all just vibrations in a very large stew.

If you are not happy, it will reverbrate into every part of you and make you sick.

Feed your young but don't sacrifice your health.

 

I like your take on things. My MO is to take a year off after every 6 of working. I still take time off during those six years, but for me it seems I need a full sabbatical every 6 years or so to create new neural pathways...helps me stay out of a rut.

 

Ever read Po Bronson's book What Should I do with my life? - case studies about people asking the question. It's interesting. Work won't make you happy, nor will a relationship or anything else outside of you...gotta find that peace from within.

[Raindawg]

GRRRR!

 

SOMEONE GIVE ME A WINNING LOTTERY TICKET

 

Uh yah.....how about getting off the internet, yah, and put the new cover-sheets on the TPS reports.

 

 

"And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire..."

 

 

[JayB]

 

 

How would your peers in the teacher's union feel about paying math/chem/physics teachers more than the folks teaching humanities or PE?

 

 

 

i'm in a teacher's union and it isn't anathema to me to see higher pay for jobs that are actually harder to fill - that seems like straight market economics to me - if you wanna reduce my pay so you can pay a math teacher more though that will be pissing me off, as well as insinuating that what i teach (social studies) is less valuable that math/science in the grand scheme of things.

 

Seems like that's what would have to happen eventually if supply and demand ever factored into teacher salaries. Maybe not straight off the bat, but when you are taking the funds out of the same pot - eventually someone with a BA in English is going to top out at a lower comp level, or get a smaller merit increase - and that money will be landing in the hands of the folks with the more valuable (in the strict economic sense) qualifications.

 

Knowing what I do about the respective difficulties associated with securing a degree in the hard sciences, versus securing a degree in the humanities (did both), I think I'd be pissed off if the guy with the degree in English was making the same amount of money that I was. Is there even such a thing as a "weed-out" course in English programs?

 

 

Seems like taking the money out of administrator pay, or cutting the number of administrator's would be a politically acceptable way to get beyond the "fairness" impasse....

 

All this "English Major" bashing is starting to piss me off...so of course you know now what I studied! There were PLENTY of "weed-out" courses...ever taken a course in Post-Modern American Poetry? A little Ezra Pound? Read much Thomas Pynchon or DeLillo? Writing critical theory abstracts?! Puh-lease! Though I will grant you that most of those were electives, not required, so I guess one could get an English degree without going taking courses like "Chaos Theory in Literature" like I did. My only point is, please stop bashing the English Majors! Some of them (like me) are really good at math/physics too!!

 

I would agree with your point about administrators however...

 

No bashing intended.

 

However, the reality is that it'll take the average person far more time and effort to get a degree in the hard sciences or engineering than it will for them to get a degree in either the social sciences or the humanities.

 

Funny, the university I attended had four year programs for both liberal arts degrees and science degrees.

 

I was talking about the amount of time the average person would have to dedicate to studying and coursework in order to pass the courses required to obtain their degree.

 

Assessing difficulty by comparing the number of credits required to graduate is kind of like comparing routes to a summit by the number of miles from a trailhead. Same destination, vastly different paths.

[chucK]

This thread was about Rudy hating his job and discussing ways one deals with issues like that.

 

It is NOT about "examples of bad union stuff and in order to tell you that story we need to argue about relative difficulty of obtaining hard science degree versus fluffy liberal arts degree".

 

You should just STFU and leave this thread. Start your own thread if you want to discuss the failings of assorted liberal ideologies. I'm sure plenty of folks would jump right in and oblige you.

 

Ditto with respect to your participation in Cheamclimbers "weird sickness" thread.

 

[JayB]

 

 

Yeah - right.

 

If either person asked me to keep the thread drift out of their spray threads, I'd gladly oblige.

 

You - I'll ignore, unless they've appointed you their personal thread chaperone.

 

[Hugh Conway]

This thread was about Rudy hating his job and discussing ways one deals with issues like that.

 

It is NOT about "examples of bad union stuff and in order to tell you that story we need to argue about relative difficulty of obtaining hard science degree versus fluffy liberal arts degree".

 

You should just STFU and leave this thread. Start your own thread if you want to discuss the failings of assorted liberal ideologies. I'm sure plenty of folks would jump right in and oblige you.

 

Ditto with respect to your participation in Cheamclimbers "weird sickness" thread.

 

 

where you at Alpental on Saturday?

[JayB]

Something tells me this is less about a highminded concern for the subtleties of spray etiquette, and more about the ways in which Chuck's personal hostilities towards me manifest themselves on the board from time to time.

 

 

[StevenSeagal]

Something tells me this is less about a highminded concern for the subtleties of spray etiquette, and more about the ways in which Chuck's personal hostilities towards me manifest themselves on the board from time to time.

 

 

Do you have a graph or a flow chart you could use to explain this further?

[chucK]

I don't have hostilities toward you JayB, just the annoying shit you post and the way you go about it.

 

But I guess since we don't ever pal around in real life, and posting on cc.com is our only interaction, I guess the distinction is somewhat moot.

 

 

Hopefully I'll never be asking you for a job.

[olyclimber]

bonus points for mentioning Ayn Rand

[ivan]

I don't have hostilities toward you JayB, just the annoying shit you post and the way you go about it.

 

:

i don't always agree w/ jay's posts, but i enjoy their consistent erudite nature and general lack of hateful vitriol - and thread drift's as natural as drunken sorority girls doffing their duds

[Hugh Conway]

bonus points for mentioning Ayn Rand

 

who died and made you Howard Roark?

[Bug]

Find bliss while keeping the brain active.

Hard to find for most. That's why I like the European model of month long holidays. Just think how you would feel after a month off. I am a contractor at Microsoft and do just that. 100 days off after each year. It reconnects me with what I liked about my job.

Perception is everything.

All that you know is just a variation on basic energy theory.

Call it the big bang, quantum physics, God, or whatever.

We are all just vibrations in a very large stew.

If you are not happy, it will reverbrate into every part of you and make you sick.

Feed your young but don't sacrifice your health.

 

I like your take on things. My MO is to take a year off after every 6 of working. I still take time off during those six years, but for me it seems I need a full sabbatical every 6 years or so to create new neural pathways...helps me stay out of a rut.

 

Ever read Po Bronson's book What Should I do with my life? - case studies about people asking the question. It's interesting. Work won't make you happy, nor will a relationship or anything else outside of you...gotta find that peace from within.

Thank you. More people should fall in line.

But seriously folks,,,,,,, I get no respect.

I have heard many old people say they wish they had spent less time at work and more with their kids. NEVER the other way around.

Ask a centurion what the secret to old age is and they will usually say "hard work, play a lot, eat your vegetables, and work your brain every day."

 

[JayB]

I don't have hostilities toward you JayB, just the annoying shit you post and the way you go about it.

 

But I guess since we don't ever pal around in real life, and posting on cc.com is our only interaction, I guess the distinction is somewhat moot.

 

 

Hopefully I'll never be asking you for a job.

 

Naturally, I'm quite relieved to hear that, Chuck.

 

Since this is nothing personal, I'm obliged to inform you that there are several instances of posters making slightly off-topic contributions without the thread author's stated consent in one or more threads in each of the 1597 other pages in this forum, and I expect that you'll bring the same highminded impartiality to the task of retroactively correcting them in those cases where their behavior deviates from your personal standards of etiquette that you displayed here...