Shawn_Olson Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 The American Alpine Institute is currently looking for a Program and Expedition Coordinator. Please see info below: Duties: *Coordinate the programs and oversee client bookings for AAI’s non-U.S. treks, climbs, courses, and expeditions in 15 countries. *Manage the year-round scheduling of 30 guides, both domestically and internationally. * Oversee AAI’s land use permits in four National Parks and eight National Forests. *Advise AAI’s executive director on international mountaineering programs, risk management, and human resource issues. * Participate as one member of an executive team in the hiring and training of staff, in strategic and operational planning, and in the design and completion of special projects. Requirements: * Guiding experience (preferably including international work) * Abilities to write and speak articulately, creatively, and effectively * An ability to work with a high level of energy, commitment, and responsibility. Location: * Bellingham, Washington, a beautiful and environmentally conscious town ranked #1 in the US by Outside magazine for quality of life in a community with exceptional opportunities for national caliber outdoor sports (cragging, alpine rock, glacier climbing, sea kayaking, mountain biking, trail running). Salary range: * $30,000 to $35,000 (DOE). Vacation pay, holiday pay, and health insurance benefits increase with time. For a prospectus and application, please visit http://aai.cc/Employment/ Submit application, résumé, and cover letter to info@aai.cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Looked like a really cool job until that part at the bottom about the poverty-level salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 typical AAI thing. who quit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 guy who got a better offer at Dick's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy_t Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 guy who got a better offer at Dick's Speaking of Dicks.... Shawn posts an opening for a climbing job on a NW climbing website and all anyone can do is complain about this? Why are you whining about the salary of a job that you are not qualified for or don't want? (especially in response to someone with no control over that salary...) If you don't want to apply for the job, don't! If you think AAI should pay their staff more, call them up and suggest that they charge more for their guiding. But just wanking off about how this job apparently wouldn't pay someone else enough money for your tastes is pretty lame. Furthermore, this sort of response just decreases the likelihood that future jobs will be posted here. This does a disservice to other climbers in the region who might be interested in this or future positions. Some of us manage to survive making *gasp* less than the "poverty-level" $15/hr W/benefits, which was advertised with this job. Shawn, thanks for posting this! It's cool to see NW climbing jobs posted on a site for NW climbers. Good luck finding someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimL Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I agree. Why put the dude down. He's just trying to give somebody an opportunity, even if the pay sucks. He didn't do anything. Why hate? Has the weather been really bad in the PNW lately? Do we have a bunch of cranky climbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Thanks for posting the job opening. I have looked and thought about this one and the others that have been posted (don't meet the qualifications on any of them :-( ). This would be an increase in pay for me, so whatever to the pay haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yes you guys are right. Better to just be quiet and polite. But sometimes you just can't help a good quip here on ol' cc.com . And besides a little reality check on prices can be helpful to the community, not unlike calling bullshit on someone's inflated used gear prices in the yardsale forum. FWIW Marylou did say it looked like a cool job, and I have to commend the guy for being upfront about the big downside in his advertisement when he could have easily not mentioned that part. Sounds like it might be a cool job, probably a lot more work than a burger flipper, but certainly more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beecher Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 What the hell is the matter with you guys? There is an entire culture and community of people who are resourceful enough to thrive on that sort of salary. Fortunately for them, they are not here on the internet 24/7 to represent themselves like us poor crotchety schmucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 What the hell is the matter with you guys? There is an entire culture and community of people who are resourceful enough to thrive on that sort of salary. Fortunately for them, they are not here on the internet 24/7 to represent themselves like us poor crotchety schmucks. The job he posted sounds like a shitload of quality office internet time 24/7 ...... and the person with those skills would be making 3-5x that much elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) There are a handful of people out of hundreds here who can't seem to make a distinction between the Spray section and the rest of the site. Visitors who want spray know where to find it. The vast majority of visitors on non-spray forums don't want to have to wade through the tired bullshit from these few. This only results in less interest in the site as a whole, which isn't good for any of us. Don't think this job pays enough? Fine. Post a link in Spray and rant away, start your own guiding company with and offer higher wages, or STFU. I fully expect those few I'm referring to will act true to form and feel the need to "comment" on this posting with a personal attack. Knock yourselves out: the point still stands. Edited January 18, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Is there any thread with more than 5 posts that you have not posted on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recycled Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Also, remember that Bellingham is not Seattle. Housing, food and most everything are cheaper here than Seattle or Portland. Maybe not as much a difference as in the past, but wages up here still reflect that differential. There are plenty of 'hamsters that would consider $30k + benefits a pretty reasonable gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 What's the difference between a climbing guide and a large pizza? A large pizza can feed a family of four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beecher Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'm with tvash. too many dicks here, spreading negativity. have fun in the circle jerk, i am done with this site. i know i know you won't miss me, i'm a useless asshole, i can be made fun of, my input isn't appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Who quit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Looked like a really cool job until that part at the bottom about the poverty-level salary. Way to drive home how I am under the poverty level….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 This only results in less interest in the site as a whole, which isn't good for any of us. Totally, because I SO care how interested people are in this site, and a high level of interest is SO important for my well-being. And, why is it spray to point out that the offered salary is perhaps low for the job expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Sounds like beecher just did. Whats the difference between a climbing guide and bonds? Bonds will eventually mature and make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 There are a handful of people out of hundreds here who can't seem to make a distinction between the Spray section and the rest of the site. Visitors who want spray know where to find it. The vast majority of visitors on non-spray forums don't want to have to wade through the tired bullshit from these few. This only results in less interest in the site as a whole, which isn't good for any of us. Pot, kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I love this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Looked like a really cool job until that part at the bottom about the poverty-level salary. Way to drive home how I am under the poverty level….. No way that salary is poverty level. Be a great job for some folks I would think. Someone who loves to climb and be around climbers for instance. Thanks for posting it here Shawn, good luck with filling the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmuja Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 ...too many dicks here, spreading negativity. have fun in the circle jerk, i am done with this site." exit post alert! No way that salary is poverty level.. yes, according to the government, it is not. In practical terms its pretty low though. But then (unless you own the company and are $ driven far beyond the adventure aspect to simply make profit) it's par for the coarse in the guiding game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 There are a handful of people out of hundreds here who can't seem to make a distinction between the Spray section and the rest of the site. Visitors who want spray know where to find it. The vast majority of visitors on non-spray forums don't want to have to wade through the tired bullshit from these few. This only results in less interest in the site as a whole, which isn't good for any of us. Pot, kettle. The funny thing about the indignation is the good correlation between thread views and posts on thread - stupid trainwreck thrunting generates interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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