tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) "Low margin business like agriculture"? I have family in ag, and hardly would their business qualify as "low margin". "Concerning since I have two hives but they seem to be doing well and swarmed twice last summer for lack of creating room." - Seahawks Two convincing arguments, same logic. The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report Edited December 5, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 How's the average annual temperature at your place, Seahawks? I need to know so I can decide if global warming is bullshit. Hey chicken little, hows it going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 More than a quarter of the country’s 2.4 million bee colonies have been lost — tens of billions of bees, according to an estimate from the Apiary Inspectors of America, a national group that tracks beekeeping. So far, no one can say what is causing the bees to become disoriented and fail to return to their hive http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/24/science/24bees.html Concerning since I have two hives but they seem to be doing well and swarmed twice last summer for lack of creating room. that because you believe in god and he only cares about people who stroke his ego. Pink=dumb shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Two convincing arguments, same logic. ? maybe you can expand on your own convincing argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I know one commercial bee operator and let me tell you, they are very worried. They can't sustain losses of 75% of their hives more than a couple years. They will go out of business. Commercial scale agriculture would be impossible without them. There's a few places in China where honeybees were depleted because of industrial pollution and the fruit growers acutually pollenate BY HAND. Now that would be fun to do to 300 arces of vegetables. Maybe they will figure out the issue soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fear_and_greed Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Obviously we will need the multinational corporations like Monsanto or ADM to develop a pollination fog/poison and spray the earth. After that they will nationalize the AG biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. So, in other words, I won that round. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. Who would have thought that a jewel in the eye of the lotus would emerge from this cesspool, bathed in a piercing, crystalline light, to guide us to satori. OK, on to my next mediocre experience. Edited December 5, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. So, in other words, I won that round. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. Who would have thought that a jewel in the eye of the lotus would emerge from this cesspool, bathed in a piercing, crystalline light, to guide us to satori. OK, on to my next mediocre experience. trash, i fucking love you man. now get rid of that ghey scarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I know one commercial bee operator and let me tell you, they are very worried. They can't sustain losses of 75% of their hives more than a couple years. They will go out of business. Commercial scale agriculture would be impossible without them. There's a few places in China where honeybees were depleted because of industrial pollution and the fruit growers acutually pollenate BY HAND. Now that would be fun to do to 300 arces of vegetables. Maybe they will figure out the issue soon enough. Now that is scary! The fact that we have our little "immigration problem" going on right now makes that a bigger threat. Not having enough pickers is currently a bigger crisis looming for us than not enough bees. If we run out of both, we're screwed. And you are going to see cherry prices going through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) That scarf keeps me in touch with my feminine power. So much material, so little time. And please, call me Hugh. Edited December 5, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I know one commercial bee operator and let me tell you, they are very worried. They can't sustain losses of 75% of their hives more than a couple years. They will go out of business. Commercial scale agriculture would be impossible without them. There's a few places in China where honeybees were depleted because of industrial pollution and the fruit growers acutually pollenate BY HAND. Now that would be fun to do to 300 arces of vegetables. Maybe they will figure out the issue soon enough. Now that is scary! The fact that we have our little "immigration problem" going on right now makes that a bigger threat. Not having enough pickers is currently a bigger crisis looming for us than not enough bees. If we run out of both, we're screwed. And you are going to see cherry prices going through the roof. Now if we could just import bees from Mexico... ...oh, wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. no sweat dude, but you can just call me Guru (capitalize the G, please!). As far as the conformity problem: your unique physique certainly keeps you outside the lines of conformity to a certain degree, but the behavioral aspects could be teased away from the common stock just a bit. How to do this? It's a difficult dilemma, since any behaviours stimulated by a reaction to some unwanted thing have that unwanted thing contained within them. I would prescribe meditation next to bald-faced wasp nests. This spring would be when to start, and it's the best time since they are a bit friendlier then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 don't worry, jerry sienfeld and al gore a working on a solution as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. no sweat dude, but you can just call me Guru (capitalize the G, please!). As far as the conformity problem: your unique physique certainly keeps you outside the lines of conformity to a certain degree, but the behavioral aspects could be teased away from the common stock just a bit. How to do this? It's a difficult dilemma, since any behaviours stimulated by a reaction to some unwanted thing have that unwanted thing contained within them. I would prescribe meditation next to bald-faced wasp nests. This spring would be when to start, and it's the best time since they are a bit friendlier then. Sense, you've strayed from the eight fold path of wasp knowledge. Bald faced hornets are very benign. You can garden very close to their nests without worry. I know this: I had a basketball sized nest only 10 feet from my raised beds several years ago. You will not find bald faced hornets in the high country. I have already enlightened you on the habits of forest yellow jackets, which become aggressive in late summer and fall, not spring, sense. Until you know the physical world, you cannot know the spiritual one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 and i'm sure the path you walk is larger than life it self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Walking is for mortals, grass shopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. no sweat dude, but you can just call me Guru (capitalize the G, please!). As far as the conformity problem: your unique physique certainly keeps you outside the lines of conformity to a certain degree, but the behavioral aspects could be teased away from the common stock just a bit. How to do this? It's a difficult dilemma, since any behaviours stimulated by a reaction to some unwanted thing have that unwanted thing contained within them. I would prescribe meditation next to bald-faced wasp nests. This spring would be when to start, and it's the best time since they are a bit friendlier then. Sense, you've strayed from the eight fold path of wasp knowledge. Bald faced hornets are very benign. You can garden very close to their nests without worry. I know this: I had a basketball sized nest only 10 feet from my raised beds several years ago. You will not find bald faced hornets in the high country. I have already enlightened you on the habits of forest yellow jackets, which become aggressive in late summer and fall, not spring, sense. Until you know the physical world, you cannot know the spiritual one. ahh little one (such rich irony!). i didn't wish you to know, but since you have forced the issue, i must tell you that, at your stage of development, you must start your meditation practice with the friendlier of the wasps. you are not ready to calm the fires of the forest yellow jacket, nor are you ready for the high country. this will come with time; you cannot force the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 ahh little one (such rich irony!). i didn't wish you to know, but since you have forced the issue, i must tell you that, at your stage of development, you must start your meditation practice with the friendlier of the wasps. you are not ready to calm the fires of the forest yellow jacket, nor are you ready for the high country. this will come with time; you cannot force the issue. Ready or not, sense, I shall go to the high country tomorrow to begin my telemeditation practice, far above the bodi tree, bathed in the divine sunlight where earth and sky kiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 You will do what you do, and of course, my well-wishes will accompany you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Walking is for mortals, grass shopper. that's fine but i'm not painting any more fences, sanding any more floors, waxing any more cars and you know what you can do with your fuckingchop sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The profit margin for the average farm, across all 2.1 million farms in the U.S. was -0.9% in 2003: The USDA Report I just did, but we had a post storm. In addition to the above, consider that agriculture that depends most on pollinators, such as orchards, enjoy the lower end of these profit margins. ok excellent, the source of the problem. When you say "farming is a low margin business", it is certainly accurate as a generalization ; i myself am not big on generalizations, so that is what i took exception to. if one lives one's life according to an understanding based on generalizations, one lives a life of mediocrity, imo, since generalizations are usually short on wisdom and high on conformity. Hey, and thanks for the life coaching, sense. I've always had a problem with conformity. no sweat dude, but you can just call me Guru (capitalize the G, please!). As far as the conformity problem: your unique physique certainly keeps you outside the lines of conformity to a certain degree, but the behavioral aspects could be teased away from the common stock just a bit. How to do this? It's a difficult dilemma, since any behaviours stimulated by a reaction to some unwanted thing have that unwanted thing contained within them. I would prescribe meditation next to bald-faced wasp nests. This spring would be when to start, and it's the best time since they are a bit friendlier then. Sense, you've strayed from the eight fold path of wasp knowledge. Bald faced hornets are very benign. You can garden very close to their nests without worry. I know this: I had a basketball sized nest only 10 feet from my raised beds several years ago. You will not find bald faced hornets in the high country. I have already enlightened you on the habits of forest yellow jackets, which become aggressive in late summer and fall, not spring, sense. Until you know the physical world, you cannot know the spiritual one. ahh little one (such rich irony!). i didn't wish you to know, but since you have forced the issue, i must tell you that, at your stage of development, you must start your meditation practice with the friendlier of the wasps. you are not ready to calm the fires of the forest yellow jacket, nor are you ready for the high country. this will come with time; you cannot force the issue. I want in on the multiple quote box thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 i can't provide multiple boxes and unfortunately have never been provided with but i can provide you with multiple....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Nothing's fucked, Dude. i one of my friends is the biggest conspiracy theorist/end of the world/born again christian/endtimes/gloom and doom conspirator i know, Hmm, Who could that be? Prolly the same guy that picked that stupid nickname for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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