G-spotter Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/14/scisurf114.xml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducknut Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 weird, a drew one of those E-8 thingys about 30 years ago with my spirograph. Who knew you could become a dirt-bag surfer physicist with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 So this is supposedly a diagram of the universe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 "Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 sounds pretty cool. it will be interesting to see how it holds up experimentally. i tried reading the real paper, but had a very hard time making it much further than the intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 killer brah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 A spirograph. I remember those. Probably don't make them anymore. Like Rockem' Sockem' Robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 http://wordsmith.org/~anu/java/spirograph.html   http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_t/104-9816364-6723938?url=search-alias%3Dtoys-and-games&field-keywords=spirograph&x=0&y=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 That's kinda neat. The interactive component. Not the x2the y2the powertothepeople geek speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougiefresh Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Looks like something off a TOOL album cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder206 Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Staring at that thing takes me back to the 80s. Well, what I can remember of the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 i love this whole thread. theoretical physics is cool. spirographs are super neato. this might be the best thread ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Yes, but does it go to 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I wish that I'd seen this before today. I had an interview at the physics/astro department at UW on Wednesday and it would have been...interesting...to ask them about it. I'm curious as to what it is about this mathematical construct that makes it less ad hoc than, say, string theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 If I understand it right, it seems that the spirograph theory is a unique solution for the relationships between the fundamental constants of the standard model, with gravity included, whereas string theory suffers from a lack of uniqueness in solutions, as well as backround dependence. Â Also, this one's prettier lookin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 TOE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Comprehensive Analytical Model Explaining Loci for the Theory Of Everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 makes me uncomfortable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Physics just isn't as highbrow as it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Wut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 he's saying it looks a little more browneye than highbrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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