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No! The Madrone Wall is NOT OPEN!

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I've had so many people come up to me and tell me that they heard that the Madrone Wall is open for climbing. Not True!!

 

Clackamas County has allotted some funding as it goes through the park master planning process in 2007 and 2008. Parks staff, engineers and other County officials are going out there to consider the opportunities for the park, and usage of the land for recreation.

 

Last I saw, the No Trespassing signs are still up at the site. If it were legally open, the signs would be gone.

 

The Madrone Wall Preservation Committee asks that people respect the closure as it goes through the park planning process and not climb there until the County takes the signs down and it is open for recreational use.

 

Thanks!

Kellie Rice

Access Fund RC- Oregon

President, Madrone Wall Preservation Committee

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There has not been a specific timeline developed.

 

Most if this out of our ( MWPC) hands now and in the hands of Clackamas Co and the State.

 

According to the newest County Commissioner ( Lynn Peterson);

-It takes at least 1 year for the Master Plan to be complete. Funding for the Master Plan began July 1, so they have til next June.

- Once the Master Plan is complete, then it goes to the State along with a conditional use application to change what the property is zoned for. It is zoned for timber and not recreation.

 

I guess think about what properties are zoned for residential and what plots of land are zoned for commercial and how to change those?? Very different from this, but there is a process with the state....

 

So, in order for it to become an official and designated park, there needs to be an approved conditional use permit to allow recreation on it. Clackamas County has to draw up the property boundaries and use of the 44 acres. They still want to harvest some of the timber and designating a buffer zone to keep the recreation use area safe is important. ( For example- They'll want to keep a 200 foot line from the top of the cliffs and back to keep climbers and hikers safe as they harvest the timber from the top of the property. Make sense?)

- The state has to see these plans as well as the parking area, ingress and egress ( spelling?) for water drainage in the parking area as well as an EIS ( for environmental impact). ODOT or Clackamas Co transportation will also be involved at some level for the parking and entryway from the road, too.

- This whole approval by the state could take 2008-2009 before it is complete. Ground will not be broken on a parking area or new trails until the state approves of it.

Subsequent funding has been projected for 2009-2010 for about 200k for the parking and again in 2011-2012 for final improvments- about another 200k.

 

Funding changes from year to year based on the County's needs and goals. It may happen sooner than later. They look at their buget and their priorities each year. I can tell you that 2 of the 3 Commissioners want to see this site become a park and DO NOT plan to drag their heels on it's progress.

 

The 3rd commissioner is not against park creation really, but wanted to see the site quarried back in the 90's when it was shut down. Comm. Bill Kennemer called the site a "cash cow" believing it would bring in millions to the county budget, but in fact it is only worth about 1.5 million including the timber and acreage. Not valuable enough to quarry, but we climbers and outdoor enthusiasts cannot put a monetary value on recreation.

 

Park creation does not happen overnight. The MWPC has met it's goals. 1) Preservation. 2) Keeping it in public ownership and not sold or developed. 3) Progress towards becoming a park.

 

 

 

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There has not been a specific timeline developed.

 

Most if this out out of our ( MWPC) hands now and in the hands on Clackamas Co and the State.

 

According to the newest County Commissioner ( Lynn Peterson);

-It takes at least 1 year for the Master Plan to be complete. Funding for the Master Plan began July 1, so they have til next June.

- Once the Master Plan is complete, then it goes to the State along with a conditional use application to change what the property is zoned for. It is zoned for timber and not recreation.

 

I guess think about what properties are zoned for residential and what plots of land are zoned for commercial and how to change those?? Very different from this, but there is a process with the state....

 

So, in order for it to become an official and designated park, there needs to be an approved conditional use permit to allow recreation on it. Clackamas County has to draw up the property boundaries and use of the 44 acres. They still want to harvest some of the timber and designating a buffer zone to keep the recreation use area safe is important. ( For example- They'll want to keep a 200 foot line from the top of the cliffs and back to keep climbers and hikers safe as they harvest the timber from the top of the property. Make sense?)

- The state has to see these plans as well as the parking area, ingress and egress ( spelling?) for water drainage in the parking area as well as an EIS ( for environmental impact). ODOT or Clackamas Co transportation will also be involved at some level for the parking and entryway from the road, too.

- This whole approval by the state could take 2008-2009 before it is complete. Ground will not be broken on a parking area or new trails until the state approves of it.

Subsequent funding has been projected for 2009-2010 for about 200k for the parking and again in 2011-2012 for final improvments- about another 200k.

 

Funding changes from year to year based on the County's needs and goals. It may happen sooner than later. They look at their buget and their priorities each year. I can tell you that 2 of the 3 Commissioners want to see this site become a park and DO NOT plan to drag their heels on it's progress.

 

The 3rd commissioner is not against park creation really, but wanted to see the site quarried back in the 90's when it was shut down. Comm. Bill Kennemer called the site a "cash cow" believing it would bring in millions to the county budget, but in fact it is only worth about 1.5 million including the timber and acreage. Not valuable enough to quarry, but we climbers and outdoor enthusiasts cannot put a monetary value on recreation.

 

Park creation does not happen overnight. The MWPC has met it's goals. 1) Preservation. 2) Keeping it in public ownership and not sold or developed. 3) Progress towards becoming a park.

 

 

 

 

thanks for the update......in other words.....dont climb there.

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Yes, we are still asking people to respect the closure.

 

However, do not be afraid to continue to e-mail or call the County and state your support as this site goes through it's park development process. Right now, Keith Daellenbach and I are the only squeaky wheels for the time being......But then again, someone has to be!!

 

Here is the link to the Clackamas County Commissioners webpage.

 

http://www.clackamas.us/bcc/

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