G-spotter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Worship the holy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Worship the holy shoot, no. aren't they like demons or something? that's why kansas is such a hell. prarie-snaffles with no mountains to offset the evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 if climbing is a religion, can I claim deductions on my gear? Sign me up. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Â We have all felt it at some point. Â Is there a good reason not to make it official? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Father, forgive me for I have sinned. It's been three weeks since I last went to church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I recently attended mass in one of the greater cathedrals just north of here. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Thanks for the thread drift, now can we get back on subject? As a user group and coalition, a religious doctrine would strengthen our stand.  What are some of the experiences that enlighten or doctrines of climbing as a religious experience? Please be serious.  Experiences that Enlighten:  1. Connection to the Earth 2. Celebration of life 3. Trust  Others?  Move this crap to spray...you guys don't know from religion!   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Kosher cigarette Dawg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Erik's desire to start a new religion probably has more to do with "altar boys" than anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists. Â I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me. Â Thanks, Buckaroo. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos_Chillin Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 ...and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter... ... sounds like ewolfe's (aka pillow-muncher) fantasy of heaven... Â In the church of climbing, RuMR would be like the fire-and-brimstone guy at the 5th Ave plaza, more detractor than anything due to his own agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 haha someone's gonna be at 9999 forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 "Don't bogart that joint, my friend... Pass it Over to me."  What are some of the experiences that enlighten or doctrines of climbing as a religious experience? Please be serious. Experiences that Enlighten:  1. Connection to the Earth 2. Celebration of life 3. Trust  Others?  Seriously... Isn't an intense focus in the pursuit of The Goal one of the tenets of both religion and climbing?   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos_Chillin Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Thank you, Scott  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Kosher cigarette Dawg? Â Depends on your perspective. Here are some: Â Is Smoking Kosher? Â Israeli cigarette warning labels in Hebrew: Clockwise from top left: Cigarettes hurt your physical fitness; Cigarette smoke hurts your children and those around you; Smoking causes premature aging of facial skin; Each cigarette brings 43 carcinogenic substances into your body.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists. I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.  Thanks, Buckaroo. ...   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos_Chillin Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hummingbird is my heart spirit. Joy! Â Thanks for that RainDawg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 you re-emerged from quite an absence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairns Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists. I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.  Thanks, Buckaroo. ...   If it can be defined it is not genuine Tao.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists. I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.  Thanks, Buckaroo. ...   If it can be defined it is not genuine Tao.   Tao is the opposite of defined and organized. if it already is so why must you make it so?  for reals though, i am down with the church of climbing. in thinking about it many of the Taoist principles apply as do many of the principles of druidism. I am personally torn. On one hand i can see that it would be of our benefit and give us "spiritual ground" to stand on when people of other faiths proclaim that we can not climb on their rocks because it is against their religion...  If climbers could actually work together and have some kind of coalition a lobby and gain some political influence we could work towards our own agenda rather than being at the whim of others who do not understand our needs.  on a more spiritual side of things, it is my firm belief that god hates it when you pray inside a building. he created this beautiful diverse amazing planet and people go INSIDE a building to pray to god... i have never understood that. seems like blasphemy to me.  can i write the book and be a guru and travel all over the world spreading the word? that would make me so happy   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Â What would our definition of Hell be? Â I've already been there. It's called Huaraz, and they only have light beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 If climbers could actually work together and have some kind of coalition a lobby and gain some political influence we could work towards our own agenda rather than being at the whim of others who do not understand our needs. Â fuck that. What is "our" agenda? Fortunately, I doubt very much the climbing community is cohesive enough for this to work. The last thing I want is some fucking group to decides what "our agenda" is. Â Climbing is a way of communing with the very nature of existance. Standing atop a remote summit, viewing the world, I am reminded of the complete and utter insignifigance of humanity, and I am awed by the beautiful, but simple fact, that the universe even exists at all. Â Humans and all the bullshit emotions and rules and laws and definitions that we cling to completely ruin that emptiness. Climbing as a religion must be equally without formal rules, organization or dogma, lest you destroy the very thing that makes it special. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The answers to all your questions regarding the formation of a "climbing church" can be found in  THE BOX (Click here to look inside)   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Thanks, Dwayner. That's going to save me a bundle of money this holiday season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 What would our definition of Hell be? Â Talking politics with Seahawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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