James Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 does anyone know where to find these tools in seattle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 http://promountainsports.com I saw them or the light wing in the store a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 28, 2002 Author Share Posted August 28, 2002 cheers. i figured if anyone had them it would be pms or ff, but neither store updates their websites regularly and i'm too lazy to call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric8 Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Marmot Mountian Works was them. I',m thinking of buying them from www.barrabes.com though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 29, 2002 Author Share Posted August 29, 2002 quote: Originally posted by eric8: Marmot Mountian Works was them. I',m thinking of buying them from www.barrabes.com though did you get a chance to work their new leash? if so how did you like it? anyone else out their have an opinion about the easy-g leash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 My opinion is I dont have an opinion until I test it on ice first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 quote: Originally posted by James: quote:Originally posted by eric8: Marmot Mountian Works was them. I',m thinking of buying them from www.barrabes.com though did you get a chance to work their new leash? if so how did you like it? anyone else out their have an opinion about the easy-g leash? The Alp Wings are 128.02 Eur each plus 30 Eur shipping from Barrabes. I ordered a pair Sunday morning and they arrived today. I'm not a leash expert so I won't comment, but I'll try them out tomorrow. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Yeah they all seem good until you get out there with em. Then you find all the damn flaws I'm not buyin into any leash bullshit any time soon. But if 80 people rave I might take a look. I still think the android was a piece - of shite and lots of people raved about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrent Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 It looks to me that the new Easy G leashes are the best non-detachable leash system out there. I think if you have used enough different leashes you could tell what will work well and what won't before you even get out there with them. What is "leash bullshit" anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pu Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Word up tbrent. You don't have to be a weekend employee for NASA to figure out if a leash design is going to work or not. Maybe just a little ice experience would help. Key points being ease of application and removal without body parts assisting, ie mouth. No unexpected detachment from climber,Like unclipping or loosening. The new grivel leash kicks @##. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Right on. You guys crack me up. I saw that myself. But did anyone use it on waterfall ice yet? Guess not. Like I said everyone raved about many other leashes in summer and found out all the flaws on the ice. I am just a skeptic and these guys want to be shit talkers. If they want to talk shit then let's do it. Gosh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Feathered Friends has them also... One thing Pro-Mountain has that no one else does are the WC-Zeros...and Stormy-Markil hanging stoves, and lots of other cool stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Yeah I dont have any ice experience Anyway I can ask then how does the pull go when removing a gloved hand on ice? Does it pull sideways or have any motion that might want to remove your pick out of the ice? Is there enough room to easily remove a gloved hand or mittened one? BTW leashes are aid so I quite using them. [ 09-11-2002, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Anyway I can ask then how does the pull go when removing a gloved hand on ice? Does it pull sideways or have any motion that might want to remove your pick out of the ice? Is there enough room to easily remove a gloved hand or mittened one? To remove a gloved hand, plant the pick, slide your hand up the shaft a bit, and pull out (away from the ice and tool) to loosen the strap and remove hand. One could pull your tool out of the ice on this last step. No sideways motion involved. To get back in, put your hand through the loop and pull down. Your mileage may vary. [ 09-11-2002, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: tomtom ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Right on. You guys crack me up. I saw that myself. But did anyone use it on waterfall ice yet? Guess not. Like I said everyone raved about many other leashes in summer and found out all the flaws on the ice. I am just a skeptic and these guys want to be shit talkers. If they want to talk shit then let's do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorasses Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 I had the luck to use one of the easy-g leash prototype last winter... Not is a Nasa design for sure (we spoke about climbing tools not shuttles) but she works... You don't need any help from the other hand and the movement is really natural. you can gain 20/25 of your energy on climbing... Sorry for my "italian" english and above all enjoy you on ice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Leashes are aid. Pussies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 "she works... You don't need any help from the other hand and the movement is really natural. " I think he's talking about leashes here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 you never know with those italians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorasses Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Next time forum in Italy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum...beware the Ides of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pu Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Unlike many products in the climbing world these new Grivel leashes didn't just go straight from the drawing boards to the production line. El Presidente of Grivel NA himself designed them and has been using them for the last 3 or 4 years. I have seen them in action. I would say that they are even easier to use than the old BD Twists yet far more secure on Vert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Regardless of the veracity of his post, I cannot pass up the observation that pu may be full of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pu Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 I agree with you Greg W. I am full of shit and it is stuck all over that sweet angry inch of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrent Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Hey caveboy. You say you are just a skeptic. Does that mean you are some expert ice climber or something? Have you designed your own leashes? If so, can we see them so we know what the perfect system is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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