IceScrewed Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 There's a bunch of new packs that I've never tried and was wondering what the current concensus was on the best pack for doing a weekend climb with a carry-over. I've always used about a 3000cu.in. bag...thoughts on makes/models/size (yeah, I know...the models and size is really asking for it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 CCW Chernobyl  this is about the best price you will find on them  http://www.backcountry-equipment.com/backpack/b-cold_cold_world/chernobyl/chernobyl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvAliens Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 GoLite climbers pack lined with a cheap foam pad for stability and comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 If someone wouldn't mind playing Alpine Dictionary for DFA, what's a "carry-over?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvAliens Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 For example N Ridge Stuart. You climb up the route over the top carring you pack/gear. And down the other side. Generally whenever you are not going to rap the same route or at least the same side of the mt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greghinemeyer Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 golightly yeh what alien said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 haven't had a ton of experience with carrying it over yet, but i really like my grivel rock. (it's got a narrow frame that's "helpful" for retaining climbing mobility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greghinemeyer Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 golite.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by ILuvAliens: For example N Ridge Stuart. You climb up the route over the top carring you pack/gear. And down the other side. Generally whenever you are not going to rap the same route or at least the same side of the mt. Thank you muchos buckets, senor Aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Wild things ice sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 go smaller. wild things rock sack. (add homemade axe holders) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Whatever  I use mine for climbing anything these days. That is including volcanoes and rock peaks etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvAliens Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 My next purchase. Sewing machine for homade everything. I'll be the guy with one short pantleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I suppose you can hommake just about anything. Some people dont care to take the time to alter equipment. My time is more valuable to me than that. I would rather be getting laid drinking beer or climbing than sewing shit on to a pack or whatever. I like to buy the right piece of equipment for the job the first time.. Although it does not always end up that way. If I buy a pack I dont want to sew shit on. That's what the packmakers are supposed to do in my eyes. But if you are short on cash and long on time or are a tightwad I got no beef.... Â I think if you spend all your time modifying then you might not have the right stuff in the first place. Â [ 08-23-2002, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I don't ever use a backpack, too heavy! Just clip everything to your harness. Keeps the bears away too! Keep little items in your pockets. Drink all your water and eat all your food at the car, keeping some in your cheeks and under your tongue, possible clipping a nalgene to your harness. Wear your sleeping bag as a belay jacket. The chest-style big wall rack can help distribute the weight. Â Check out the new Black Diamond "Still Suits," coming fall 2002!!! I've got a demo, and choose to wear mine, "desert fashion." Take lots of Vicodan, or Codine to fold space once on the summit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Hutchinson Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Lowe Alpine Attack 50 (50 liters = 3000 cubic inches). Light, has crampon pouch, removable bivy pad, slots for skis and ice ax holsters, and best racking system (removable underarm slings and built-in vertical gear loops on shoulder straps - the later are the single best way to carry pickets!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 If I did wear a pack, I would agree w/Doug Hutchinson (not that I own that pack and love it). You need duct tape to make your hammer holster small diameter, and the compression straps are confusing w/the shovel flap (keep the flap for your crampons). Fucking awesome perfect pack. Not boxy, like the ice sack. Carries well, no frame either, but the back is padded and a has a foam bivy pad, and water bladder pouch. Non-bulky waist belt. I think Twight designed it, not sure. Kicks ass....I hear. One of the cheapest packs around. The single best feature of the pack is that it Climbs Well! The ice sack, and others don't hug your body as well. Â [ 08-23-2002, 06:49 PM: Message edited by: michael_layton ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 layton, you must a genius. anything you don't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 arcteryx nozone with the webbing belt instead of the foam one, and the crampon patch and staysheet removed. Â Golite gear sure is lite but i heard you can use a pack for 1 extended trip and then expect to throw it away...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazy_1 Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 my 2 cents.... so i got the "Arcteryx Khamisn 38" special with the pretty dark blue panels on the side and the black and checkered material, whatever! ... i like it. no foam on waist, way light, comfy comfy fit. i use it for everything now. plenty of room for skis, axes, gear... but still a smaller pack. not sure about crampons, no place for those... i'm sure i'll be figuring it out soon though, i plan on using it on adams next weekend. and no there are no bows on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by krazy 1: my 2 cents.... so i got the "Arcteryx Khamisn 38" special with the pretty dark blue panels on the side and the black and checkered material, whatever! ... i like it. no foam on waist, way light, comfy comfy fit. i use it for everything now. plenty of room for skis, axes, gear... but still a smaller pack. not sure about crampons, no place for those... i'm sure i'll be figuring it out soon though, i plan on using it on adams next weekend. and no there are no bows on it. hey, I have the same pack. Nestle crampons together and lash on the front with the lash cord supplied. Obviously dont have the spikes facing inward. I agree with you, a trick pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Right on, Trask. A special place to put crampons on a pack is probably the least important feature that one could look for in a pack. Crampons come with their own straps and there is barely a pack around that doesn't have some strap or buckle that allows items like Crampons to be strapped on. "Features" are far less important than the basic size and shape of the pack -- for technical climbing I like a pack that is cut narrow toward the top and does not extend above my shoulders, so I have maximum freedom of arm movement and I can tip my head back to look up. Also, a flexible belt and shoulder straps without a bunch of plastic stiffeners will be less in the way when hauling the pack or taking it off on some small ledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Wild things ice sack I love my Wild Things Ice Sac. I've used it all season, with the exception of the five, ummm... six, day Challenger trip, where I reluctantly went with a larger pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Serratus Genie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 quote: layton, you must a genius. anything you don't know? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Your a mean Mr. Meanie! Yes, I am a genius according to people much stupider than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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