plexus Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Don't think I would trust this. http://www.spadout.com/video_external.php?vide_video_id_single=10&vide_backurl=/wiki/index.php/or_show_summer_2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Prolly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I could easily rip that apart with my bare hands. seriously though, it doesn't seem like it would be that much different then a BD halfdome as far as protection it might give. But some might prefer a helmet you can get your whole body under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 It's the seams and joints I don't trust. Looks like it could burst on impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Most people I know carry their helmet on the back of the pack when it's not on their head so not sure where saving the space would be that useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 It's the seams and joints I don't trust. Looks like it could burst on impact. There are plenty of helmets that can burst on impact and there are plenty of helmets that can break if you clip them to the back of your pack and happen to drop the pack carelessly. If the helmet can pass UIAA tests then it is probably as good as the rest of them. I'll stick with my Ecrin Roc, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Husbands Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 i want one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Most people I know carry their helmet on the back of the pack when it's not on their head so not sure where saving the space would be that useful. Most people I know carry their helmets inside their packs! its safer in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 this foldable helmet would go great with my detachable penis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHiers Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Climbing helmets protect you from small, high velocity objects; they aren't intended to protect your melon from slamming into a stationary object. Still, I climb with a Roc, myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt5816v Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 this foldable helmet would go great with my detachable penis. Great song.. I can't see how it saves any space?!? Can't you stuff things into a regular helmet in your pack? If anything I'd think that would take up more space.. I'm sure it's safe and all though. Look at bicycle helmets. If you use one in a crash you toss it and get a new one. That's the price of light weight. Not to mention the helmet deteriorating during impact is distributing and absorbing the force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I asked someone in a climbing shop (I forgot where) why I can't use a bicycle helmet for climbing. They said a climbing helmet is designed for TOP impact, where a bike helmet is designed for SIDE impact. If that makes a difference. My helmet gets most of it's wear and tear from me taking off and throwing down my pack while it's hanging on the back, and from me standing up into rocks without looking up and banging my head. BAM! Saved a few bloody scalps with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt5816v Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Yeah, I don't think I'd advocate the use of a bike helmet for climbing either. Just saying the the helmet falling apart from an impact isn't necessarily a bad thing. I use BD hafldome for caving and climbing so I smack it into stuff all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Can't you stuff things into a regular helmet in your pack? I use my helmet to keep my potato chips and cereal from getting smashed in my pack. Maybe I can find foldable potato chips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Pringles! DUH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Climbing helmets protect you from small, high velocity objects; they aren't intended to protect your melon from slamming into a stationary object. Still, I climb with a Roc, myself. When one stops to consider that more people die from slamming into stationary objects than from falling objects, perhaps most helmets are not properly designed. We wear helmets to protect ourselves. We don't care what the source of trauma is. We want to protect our noggins. In my opinion, climbing helmets are the single most poorly designed piece of equipment we use today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Helmet or not, when your grey matter gets whipped around inside your skull from high speed impact, it ain't a-gonna matter how well it's designed - it's scrambled eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 WHIP IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 This is no different than this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 now you're talking. the telescopic properties are sure to protect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHiers Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) Climbing helmets protect you from small, high velocity objects; they aren't intended to protect your melon from slamming into a stationary object. Still, I climb with a Roc, myself. When one stops to consider that more people die from slamming into stationary objects than from falling objects, perhaps most helmets are not properly designed. We wear helmets to protect ourselves. We don't care what the source of trauma is. We want to protect our noggins. In my opinion, climbing helmets are the single most poorly designed piece of equipment we use today. I'd like a helmet that protects against acceleration, too! I guess its a matter of weight, however... You're moving about 20mph after a 32' fall, and you just keep accelerating. You pretty quickly gain enough speed to move out of the bicyle helmet (1m drop test) to the motorcycle drop test (3m drop test). I wonder what kind of helmet you'd need to pass a 10m drop test. You can protect against acceleration, if your willing to climb in something that is pretty close to a motorcycle helmet. Maybe an airbag-like-thingy. Physics, it seems, is not on our side. Edited August 18, 2007 by DavidHiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREETOAD Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 A twenty foot fall onto your head would probably break your neck anyway. I like to pack stuff in me helmet but it is still a pain in the ass to stuff it in my pack. I like the foldable idea, if it is lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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