dt_3pin Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 thin sure beats out big fake pamela titties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 thin sure beats out big fake pamela titties. Â just feed that girl a few hearty meals and she'll be golden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 thin sure beats out big fake pamela titties. Â I completely disagree. Bigger the better. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 A comment from an FBI investigator on mass shooters was interesting. He theorized that the reason these guys with no weapons training were able to proceed room-to-room so cooly shooting people was they had rehearsed it so many times on video games. Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 A comment from an FBI investigator on mass shooters was interesting. He theorized that the reason these guys with no weapons training were able to proceed room-to-room so cooly shooting people was they had rehearsed it so many times on video games. Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns? Â No, of course that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. Desensitizing and glorifying violence in video games, TV, and movies of course has absolutely no deletorious effects on anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfinley Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Here are some stats for the gun nuts:  Bureau of Justice Statistics; Murders, robberies, and aggravated assaults in which firearms were used, numbers of offenses and rates per 100,000 population, 1973 to 2005: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/guncrimetab.htm  Here's a breakdown of the actual guns used in crimes. This is important because the main talking point of the NRA is that most guns used in violent crimes were obtained illegally. However -- according to this study from the DOJ only 40% of guns were obtained illegally - 28% were legally purchased and 39% were purchased from a friend / family. Thus the main talking point is wrong -- most guns were obtained legally. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf  And finally - in regards to the VT incident... the guns were legally bought. The first one on March 13th and the second one exactly 30 days later. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/first_gun_bough.html   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns?  Yes....it seems kids these days don’t know how to socialize, all they know how to do is get back to the video game as quick as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfinley Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 No, of course that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. Desensitizing and glorifying violence in video games, TV, and movies of course has absolutely no deletorious effects on anybody. The guy was an English major. If anything Homer made him do it. Or maybe it was Shakespeare. Then again Ovid is pretty obscene too. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I have to say, that if I ever do meet any aliens, I'll probably shoot them, just out of reflex, but only if I don't have any of the cooler weapons available. Suffice it to say, anyone who plays video games should not be selected for any First Contact diplomatic mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns?  Yes....it seems kids these days don’t know how to socialize, all they know how to do is get back to the video game as quick as possible.  The solution is obvious: Ban children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 No, of course that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. Desensitizing and glorifying violence in video games, TV, and movies of course has absolutely no deletorious effects on anybody. The guy was an English major. If anything Homer made him do it. Or maybe it was Shakespeare. Then again Ovid is pretty obscene too. Â If Shakesperean or Homeric literature was the inspiration he would have stabbed or poisoned his victims. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns?  Yes....it seems kids these days don’t know how to socialize, all they know how to do is get back to the cascadeclimbers.com as quick as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns?  Yes....it seems kids these days don’t know how to socialize, all they know how to do is get back to the cascadeclimbers.com as quick as possible.  At least here we're only desensitized to be rude to eachother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns?  Yes....it seems kids these days don’t know how to socialize, all they know how to do is get back to the cascadeclimbers.com as quick as possible.  At least here we're only desensitized to be rude to eachother.  STFU.....just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallShoes Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 A comment from an FBI investigator on mass shooters was interesting. He theorized that the reason these guys with no weapons training were able to proceed room-to-room so cooly shooting people was they had rehearsed it so many times on video games. Does this mean we should ban violent video games along with guns? Â No, of course that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. Desensitizing and glorifying violence in video games, TV, and movies of course has absolutely no deletorious effects on anybody. Â I'm not saying that violence in video games and movies etc. has no effect on people but I submit that if playing a violent video game or watching a violent movie is going to make you go out and re-enact that violence in real life you have to be pretty screwed-up (technical term) to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 i don't think that was the original point. i think the point was related to hes demeanor while he was shooting --cool and calm. not that he wasn't nuts with or without video games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallShoes Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Or he could be cool and calm because he was fucking nuts. Do we even know if this guy played violent video games or watched a ton of violent movies? Not knowing leaves this "Theory" in the realm of pure speculation. It's an interesting idea but I'm skeptical. I'm also tired of hearing people blame violence in movies/games for shit like this, not that anyone here was doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Here are some stats for the gun nuts: Bureau of Justice Statistics; Murders, robberies, and aggravated assaults in which firearms were used, numbers of offenses and rates per 100,000 population, 1973 to 2005: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/guncrimetab.htm  Here's a breakdown of the actual guns used in crimes. This is important because the main talking point of the NRA is that most guns used in violent crimes were obtained illegally. However -- according to this study from the DOJ only 40% of guns were obtained illegally - 28% were legally purchased and 39% were purchased from a friend / family. Thus the main talking point is wrong -- most guns were obtained legally. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf  And finally - in regards to the VT incident... the guns were legally bought. The first one on March 13th and the second one exactly 30 days later. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/first_gun_bough.html  interesting column - percent of murders involving a gun from 1973-2005 - averages about 62% over the time span - would be fun to see the other implements of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 No, of course that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. Desensitizing and glorifying violence in video games, TV, and movies of course has absolutely no deletorious effects on anybody. The guy was an English major. If anything Homer made him do it. Or maybe it was Shakespeare. Then again Ovid is pretty obscene too. Â If Shakesperean or Homeric literature was the inspiration he would have stabbed or poisoned his victims. Â or thrown them to Scylla and Charybdis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 perhaps this young asian fellow hadn't had his soma yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Or he could be cool and calm because he was fucking nuts. Do we even know if this guy played violent video games or watched a ton of violent movies? Not knowing leaves this "Theory" in the realm of pure speculation. It's an interesting idea but I'm skeptical. I'm also tired of hearing people blame violence in movies/games for shit like this, not that anyone here was doing that.  this site is all about speculation  get with the program  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Here are some stats for the gun nuts: Bureau of Justice Statistics; Murders, robberies, and aggravated assaults in which firearms were used, numbers of offenses and rates per 100,000 population, 1973 to 2005: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/guncrimetab.htm  Here's a breakdown of the actual guns used in crimes. This is important because the main talking point of the NRA is that most guns used in violent crimes were obtained illegally. However -- according to this study from the DOJ only 40% of guns were obtained illegally - 28% were legally purchased and 39% were purchased from a friend / family. Thus the main talking point is wrong -- most guns were obtained legally. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf  And finally - in regards to the VT incident... the guns were legally bought. The first one on March 13th and the second one exactly 30 days later. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/first_gun_bough.html  interesting column - percent of murders involving a gun from 1973-2005 - averages about 62% over the time span - would be fun to see the other implements of choice  frying pans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 titanium sporks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallShoes Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 this site is all about speculation  get with the program True. I'll commence talking out of my ass.  This could have been prevented if either everyone had guns or, alternatively, if no one had guns. Violent video games such as Grand Theft Auto should be banned because obviously they made him do it. I miss anything? Besides the facts?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Ummm could it be that if the shooter had been wearing an MLU, the authorities would have been able to find him much more quickly after the first two killings, thus preventing dozens of further deaths? Â Why stop at climbers? MLUs for everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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