Dechristo Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Do you believe I'm defending Imus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 We know how to control undesireble behavior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 At one time that's what journalism used to be about - public accountability rather than hate-filled 'entertainment'. You might want to reconsider that statement. The term "yellow journalism" was created over one hundred years ago to describe the sensationalizing of news in order to drive up circulation. ...and Jefferson's hiring of a New York journalist to smear Adams took place before the presidential election of 1800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 November 21, 1888: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) The viewpoint that The Imuscide was somehow a watershed moment is a bit naive. It was more like a concatenation of events that resulted in a rare but perfect media storm. 80's era shock jock meets social climate change meets ratings losing company meets really slow news weekend meets extremely sympathetic and undeserving target of insult with a dash of Sharpton and Co. It's a story about a company firing a radio DJ who pulls in $15 million in revenues a year. That's a chunk of change, but barely a line item on CBS's balance sheet. Ie, not a very big story in the scheme of things, but hey, what else was the country going to talk about at Easter Dinner? The only thing that made this story a remotely social issue, really, is that Imus made his remark on public airwaves licensed by the FCC. Still, those who argue for his firing (as anything other than an at will employment business decision on the part of CBS) might think further about the implications of such actions should the political climate change. What if a radio personality gets fired for going against the social tide by, say, critizing the war or defending muslims? All the same principles apply. By this reasoning I'm very leary to jump on the lynch Imus bandwagon (full disclosure; I hadn't heard of him before the story broke, and have never heard his program). And I'm dead against a government agency regulating this kind of speech. Don't like what's on? Then turn the fucking thing off. Meanwhile, back at the studio, other shock jocks will continue to say what they want, although they'll probably drop 'nappy headed hos' from their repetoires, until their schticks become too stale to make the ratings. Cable/Broadband, happily a zone where freedom of speech still survives, continues to eat broadcast alive. It's bidness as usual. Edited April 16, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Imus was on 60 Minutes tonite.... Only saw a little bit but that was enough to show what a loser he is. Classis quote from the 60 minutes interview last night: "Give me an example. Give me one example of one racist incident," Imus replied. "You told Tom Anderson, the producer, in your car, coming home, that Bernard McGuirk is there to do * jokes," Wallace said. "Well, I've nev…I never use that word," Imus said. "Tom," Wallace asked his producer. "Did I use that word?" Imus asked. "I recall you using that word," Anderson replied. "OK. Well, then I used that word. But I mean, of course that was an off-the-record conversation. But...," Imus said. "The hell it was," Wallace remarked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 perhaps he should be niggardly in his use of pejorative speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 We have laws to determine "wrong" behavior... Laws delineate the limits and boundaries of behavior. Many people behave badly, but know the laws and how to skirt or surf them quite well. LSD is an illegal drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Here's some more quotes from your buddy: It's a song so obscene that 60 Minutes could play only part of it on television. "She goes to state dinners with her lesbian friends, makes big investments with high dividends. Forgets to pay taxes but then makes amends, that's why the first lady is a tramp," the lyrics went. "This is the first lady of the United States. Doesn't worry you at all?" Wallace asked Imus. "That's not offensive," Imus replied. "Well, shall I play some more of it, where it gets really offensive?" Wallace asked. "Well, there is a line, there are a couple of lines in there that were over the line. Yeah, I mean, that was a mistake," Imus acknowledged. "And drug addict. You know, I'd drink on the air. I'd do cocaine on the air, you know," Imus admitted in the interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I read nothing here but standard political satire. That, in my book, is a very, very healthy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 And you badly need to drop some even if it is years, if not decades, too late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Who elected JosephH Chief Moralizer? Too bad your indignation does not extend to ze jews, asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 H. Zat iz a Chewish name, iz it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallShoes Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Will these story ever die? WTF??? 11 pages later. Still going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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