climbnsparky Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 (edited) im looking for a pair of soft shell pants. what are you guys using? i have a pair of the rei taku pants that i use when its warmer, they seem to work ok. just dont have a ton of faith in rei gear. and a pair of full xcr bibs for when its ugly. but lately i have been getting to hot. now i am the sweaty kid. i think about moving and i sweat. so i started looking at the arcteryx gamma ar and mx pants. anyone have these? how do they work in warmer mountianering/alpine activities. how about hardwears conduit softshell? at this point im not set on anything specific so im open to sugestions. Edited November 19, 2006 by climbnsparky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Serl Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Gamma AR rocks. Tweave stretch woven fabric seems tougher than Schoeller, and is cooler than many alternatives, cuz there's no "loop" knit on the backside. That means u have to break out the LJ's sooner when it gets cold, but that's no issue - good all year round... But expensive! cheers, don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthirloway Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 The Mammut Courmayeur pants have worked really well for me all year round. Not sure if they're still making them though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 For winter use I got a pair of the MEC Tactic pants and I am really happy with them. Plus the price can't be beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoran Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I have Cloudveil Summetry pants. I think they are havier than Arcteryx Gamma AR but cheaper. Cloudveil still can't beat Arcteryx products in weight but quality is very very good. http://www.cloudveil.com/mens/v-pants/CV03002/ MEC Tactics are great but I think they are warmer than you looking for. Price is perfect! Arcteryx is the best option if you have money. They will last very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleRoss Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Mammut Champ pants. Kick ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I bought a pair (my 2nd) of the Courmayeur pants this past spring so I think they're still making them. They come in a winter weight but I've used the summer weights along with a thin poly on some cold winter stuff and stayed pretty warm. Also used then on a few warmer occassions with no problem but I think the tan ones would be better for the warmer weather than the black that I have. I've gotten a few small rips but they didn't fray and were easily sewn. Nice pants - I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendershot Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Any time I combine a Gore XCR shell with long johns, I cook. I even have to vent the full zip at some point during a hike. I have been using Patagonia's French Roast or Guide Pants on Baker, Rainer, and Prusik Peak. Now I leave the XCR pants at home and just bring my guide pants with a rain shell. I think it boils down to personal preference mostly. Go for the Gamma pants if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Listen to teleross. I have the champ pants and those, along with a driclime windshirt, are my fav pieces of outdoor attire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have Cloudveil Summetry pants. I think they are havier than Arcteryx Gamma AR but cheaper. Cloudveil still can't beat Arcteryx products in weight but quality is very very good. http://www.cloudveil.com/mens/v-pants/CV03002/ MEC Tactics are great but I think they are warmer than you looking for. Price is perfect! Arcteryx is the best option if you have money. They will last very long. Those Cloudveil pants are quite nice, excellent fit as on all Cv items. The Dead Bird pants take the cake hands down, though. That Tweave fabric is the best I have seen. I know lots of people who live by Schoeller incarnations, but under hard use they don't last near as long as the bird. If you were paying attention, the factory sale the other week had Gamma pants at $90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Which makes me reflect on winter soft shell pants. Powershield is such an excellent fabric, but it seems to be going out of vogue for some reason MEC seems to be the only company making Powershield bibs, though the Cosmo bibs lack both pockets and zip sides. My MEC Pamir bibs, now two seasons gone, are the gold standard. Going on 4 heavy seasons, both ski and ice, on my current pair. The fit was potato sack-like, but the features were perfect. BRING EM BACK MEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuggedaboudit Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I have the Arcteryx Gamma MX- next to my La Sportiva Nepal Evos might be my favorite piece of clothing gear. Maybe 60 days alpine/ice use in total and they are still in great shape. Have worn them on Mt. Washington and at Lake Whiloughby in the single digits with wind- still warm enough with the midweight capilene. I think these are heavier than the AR pants but I think they are also warmer. The side pockets are perfect location/size. One peice of your clothing system that you never have to screw with once its on. They are easy to stich up/patch. Since you asked about warmer, I have been on Rainier in June and July and in the afternoon you are hot in them, but I always find that its easy to strip down the upper body layers, take off the gaiters and be OK. Yes they are expensive but you wont need a new pair for a LOOOONG time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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