dbconlin Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 If you have a large pack you will fill it. I totally disagree! Everyone says so, but if you are a dedicated alpinist and weight matters, you will minimize it no matter what size your pack is. I have carried a 60L pack while my partner carried a 30L, but I bet the difference in weight was negligible (and I had a lot less stuff hanging on the outside). This is on a carry-over route on Rainier and I will admit that when weight is not so crucial, I may pack in a few extras, which I can because my pack is big enough. And when you are backpacking, not carrying your pack 10,000 vertical feet over the top of a huge mountain, it may be worth it to pack those luxuries. That said, skiing with a heavy pack sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ha ha. But if you are small, you probably weigh a lot less yet still have to carry the same weight of fuel, stove, climbing gear (!), etc. I find that I am usually carrying a higher proportion of my body weight on my back than most people I climb with even though I have my system pretty dialed/lightweight/minimal! That's the same argument Kelly tries to use on me. I don't buy it. You're such a bad ass climber that you don't really need a tent or any of that stuff, right? Unfortunately, I have to admit that it's true. I can carry 120 pounds around for a mile or two without too much effort. I doubt that kelly can as easily... As for "filling the pack", come on...I thought you were a disciplined person? I carry one of my 60L's around with the sides closed down all the time. Personally, I sometimes find it nice to have extra room in the pack so I don't have to pack well. I guess I'm just lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arc Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hey Crackers, you set a couple of good points in stone, and I back ya up on them... ...except for one. A person of smaller stature needs less energy than one of your proportions. Giving consideration to that; less snow melting = less fuel, and less water at hand. The rest is just personal math guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearup5000 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 ^^Yeah, certain things have bare minimum weights and lighter wieght ppl have a higher weight to body weight ratio. Sucks, but that's the way it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 goldenchild, sounds like a normal list of stuff to carry in the winter, but maybe the specific items you use are bulkier than what some of us carry. I am average sized, I carry size large garments in winter, but I pick stuff that stuffs small, don't carry duplicates (other than socks and gloves). If I carry a tent it's a very small one. I can get everything in a Granite Gear Virga, a pack that weighs less than 2 pounds but is roomy enough. Sometimes I choose a sturdier pack, or a larger one, but never one that weighs more than 3 or 4 pounds. I don't like skiing with a pack that has a frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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