cj001f Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Despite the rhetoric, if you took a look at the everyday actions, incomes, behavior, homes, net-worth - any concrete measure of how people actually live - you'd find very little real difference difference between those who consider themselves to be outside or alienated from the mainstream and those they despise. When you come right down to it, Ballard is every bit as middle-class and conventional Bellevue, despite pretensions to the contrary. They may check a different box come election time, but when you look at how they actually live - not much difference. Well at some base level all humans are pretty much the same, it all depends on the gradation of the scale you are measuring, no? And yes, I do agree with you that the subaru driving latte drinking thailand vacationing atheist is as valid a middleclass stereotype as the tahoe driving dietcoke drinking disneyland vacationing southern baptist. Thats as much a reflection on the absence of the new in our culture as anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 i had no idea... i was just making wild unsubstantiated, completely unsupported statements as though they were fact. No problem. I do that all the time when giving anonymous people climbing beta on teh internut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 There are other differences.....My friends that live in circa 1910 homes in Ballard spend ~ 5K - 10K per year on things like new wiring, new roofs, new water pipes, siphoning up poo out of their basements when the clay sewer pipe collapses between their foundation and the main in the street....I spend my money on gear Your townhouse sounds lovely. Does it come with the plastic trees outside too or do you have to buy those seperate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Fox lives on Cap Hill Strike two! This is a fun game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Fox lives in the El Paradiso Motel on Aurora and 145th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Your townhouse sounds lovely. Does it come with the plastic trees outside too or do you have to buy those seperate? jesus harry, learn your suburbia. The smiles are plastic, the trees are real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Seriously....you live in Peshastin, and your baggin on my digs? What's the chamber of commerce pushing out there...."Only 15 minutes from Wenatchee" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Seriously....you live in Peshastin, and your baggin on my digs? What's the chamber of commerce pushing out there...."Only 15 minutes from Wenatchee" Or Issaquah: "Only 15 miles from downtown Seattle, but 3.5 hours during rush hour traffic." Yeah, dude you're right, ten acres on an old pear orchard up a beautiful canyon off Peshastin Creek is pretty lame. Its just so ugly out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Fox lives in the El Paradiso Motel on Aurora and 145th ? Cardboard box next to the dumpster at Pike Place Mkt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Just sounds like a lot of yardwork to me.....and a lot of running to catch those sheep - keeps you in shape for climbing I guess. There's a photo earlier in the post that you might enjoy in the event you aren't up for the round-up this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Fox lives in the El Paradiso Motel on Aurora and 145th ? Cardboard box next to the dumpster at Pike Place Mkt In a van down by the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Just sounds like a lot of yardwork to me.....and a lot of running to catch those sheep - Issaquah was like that about 15 years ago. Now it's a bad version of Orange County except filled with people who pretend they live in a rural area. And the traffic sucks even worse than the OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Cardboard box next to the dumpster at Pike Place Mkt DING DING DING!!! "Hey buddy, can you spare $56.72 for my DSL connection?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Just sounds like a lot of yardwork to me.....and a lot of running to catch those sheep - keeps you in shape for climbing I guess. There's a photo earlier in the post that you might enjoy in the event you aren't up for the round-up this evening. Besides the obvious fringe benefits of having the sheep around ( ) being self sufficient is a much more rewarding way to live than being dependant on Mr. Safeway for all your sustenance. However, the economy needs people like you to bolster the home retail and construction industry. And where would Wal-Mart be without folks like you? So keep up the good work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 You are truly ignorant, any jackass with half a brain knows that Issaquah is home to Target. Do your homework before trading barbs with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Recent research has revealed that people living in urban areas tend to be more fit and less fat than those living in the suburbs who are in turn fitter and leaner than those in rural areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Fox lives in the El Paradiso Motel on Aurora and 145th ? Don't believe everything you read on a W-2. -AlpinPimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 You are truly ignorant, any jackass with half a brain knows that Issaquah is home to Target. Do your homework before trading barbs with me. woah, guys, he's upper middle class. No WalMart shopper here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 thanks bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 You are truly ignorant, any jackass with half a brain knows that Issaquah is home to Target. Do your homework before trading barbs with me. I should have known. Since you can't buy ammo at Target, Target wouldn't last long with the rednecks 'round here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 FWIW I'd bet that a modern townhouse in Bellevue requires a way lower energy input per square foot than a SFH from the 1930's in Ballard. Peshastin sounds great though. I'd could pretty easily live there or Ellensburg or Wenatchee and exploit the hell out of the wage-to-property-value differential living in those parts would provide us, but the other half just isn't going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 True Confessions.... FWIW - we looked at two houses in Ballard before we bought our townhouse, and they were 30% more expensive than our TH and being circa 1900's, we were worried that there could be major unanticipated expenses coming down the road. Truth-be-told, I'd live in Ballard if we could afford it. However, our deck looks over a wetland/bird sanctuary with Glacier and Baker visible in the distance and our development backs up to the Cougar Mountain Wilderness, there's about 500' of paved roads between our place and access to endless miles of of great running trails (Tiger Mountain etc.) My wife and I lived in separate states for our entire dating relationship, so we decided we wanted to spend the weekend during our first couple years of marriage doing something other than working on the yard, or upgrading heinous floor/wall/counters coverings. No SUV's here.....We both drive Civics - she a 94 and I a 97. As far as living in an older house, I have two friends whose basements filled with Poo in the last year....one in Greenlake, and one in Magnolia due to collapsed sewer lines....so choose your sword I guess - I don't like SUVs, or the lack of diversity that comes in the suburbs, but pretty happy about the fact that I've done nothing but change lightbulbs and a furnace filter over the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 To each their own. Atleast EricB has a good sense of humor and can take a little ribbing without getting all bent out of shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 True Confessions.... FWIW - we looked at two houses in Ballard before we bought our townhouse, and they were 30% more expensive than our TH and being circa 1900's, we were worried that there could be major unanticipated expenses coming down the road. Truth-be-told, I'd live in Ballard if we could afford it. However, our deck looks over a wetland/bird sanctuary with Glacier and Baker visible in the distance and our development backs up to the Cougar Mountain Wilderness, there's about 500' of paved roads between our place and access to endless miles of of great running trails (Tiger Mountain etc.) My wife and I lived in separate states for our entire dating relationship, so we decided we wanted to spend the weekend during our first couple years of marriage doing something other than working on the yard, or upgrading heinous floor/wall/counters coverings. No SUV's here.....We both drive Civics - she a 94 and I a 97. As far as living in an older house, I have two friends whose basements filled with Poo in the last year....one in Greenlake, and one in Magnolia due to collapsed sewer lines....so choose your sword I guess - I don't like SUVs, or the lack of diversity that comes in the suburbs, but pretty happy about the fact that I've done nothing but change lightbulbs and a furnace filter over the last 2 years. Damn - there's got to be some sort of a one-way valve that you can get put on your sewerline to keep the backflow out of your home, if nothing else. Cleaning up a basement that flooded with rainwater sucked enough, and took an eternity to clean - but sewage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Oh man....to make matters worse, one of the guys was hosting a wake at his house when it happened....they finish up some light appetizers upstairs and tell all the guests to go downstairs to watch a video/slideshow he had put together about the deceased.....let's just say it's a good thing they ate before going downstairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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