archenemy Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Yes, those Ukranian knock-offs are stunning. I wonder if anyone is concerned about their use of the terms "camalot" and "flexible friends?" Check out the quality manufacturing: that paint job, tidy swage covers, and precision milled grooves just knock me out! Agreed, they copied everything but the name and the quality it appears. It makes you wonder what kind of testing and liability issues they would have if say.....hmmm, that center bar was accidently not heat treated so that instead of Rockwell 48-52 or whatever the hell it should be, it came in at RC38 and failed at 1200 lbs, which, come to think of it, is approx. my lard-assed weight in a 2 foot fall with 5' of rope out. I think I'm gonna by me one of those nut tools though. 12"......., damn, I've always wanted 12". I'm doing it right now. Liability issues? Can you imagine trying to take them to court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos_Chillin Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Yes, those Ukranian knock-offs are stunning. I wonder if anyone is concerned about their use of the terms "camalot" and "flexible friends?" Check out the quality manufacturing: that paint job, tidy swage covers, and precision milled grooves just knock me out! Agreed, they copied everything but the name and the quality it appears. It makes you wonder what kind of testing and liability issues they would have if say.....hmmm, that center bar was accidently not heat treated so that instead of Rockwell 48-52 or whatever the hell it should be, it came in at RC38 and failed at 1200 lbs, which, come to think of it, is approx. my lard-assed weight in a 2 foot fall with 5' of rope out. I think I'm gonna by me one of those nut tools though. 12"......., damn, I've always wanted 12". I'm doing it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 The nuts on the ends of the axles are a very nice touch. I wander if they are at least the type with the plastic core that don't wiggle themselves loose over time? Old WC Friends used to have nuts on the end of the axles. If you could reach the nut with a socket wrench, it made getting overcammed stuck Friends out pretty damn easy, you just disassembled it in the crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 They don't have any listed and they have not returned my email. Hmmmmmmmmmm No 12" tool for Bill. Might have to sac up and just by a big metal shelf bracket, wrap some duct tape on the handle part and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavastik Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 An old partner from days of yore once opined, "Sobo, you can't buy Friends." It is true in more ways than one... Oh yeah?!? Well, I bought mine, and at a discount too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 So you have cheap friends. I have cheap friends, too, but at least I didn't have to buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLA Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 ukrainian climbing gear web site now available www.PetrenkoWorld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 yup and they came through with 2 of those nut tools for me. I hit the end on a grinder and sharpened the hell out of it, it makes quite the crack cleaning device if you put the right grind on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_vent Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I bought some climbax cams, pretty cheap, from pagan gear and on the third use I snapped a trigger wire french freeing, pretty sure that AINT supposed to happen. Also the climbax cams rusted up on my within a year of minimal to normal use, while my old #1 camalot is going stronger than ever and is so much easier to place. The climbax cams have this weird twisting action when you try to place them. Overall even being the big ass cheapo that I am, I wouldnt buy them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLA Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 at ebay item # 320017723482 10 % discount coupon for use at www.PetrenkoWorld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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