Jump to content
  • Announcements

    • olyclimber

      WELCOME TO THE CASCADECLIMBERS.COM FORUMS   02/03/18

      We have upgraded to new forum software as of late last year, and it makes everything here so much better!  It is now much easier to do pretty much anything, including write Trip Reports, sell gear, schedule climbing related events, and more. There is a new reputation system that allows for positive contributors to be recognized,  it is possible to tag content with identifiers, drag and drop in images, and it is much easier to embed multimedia content from Youtube, Vimeo, and more.  In all, the site is much more user friendly, bug free, and feature rich!   Whether you're a new user or a grizzled cascadeclimbers.com veteran, we think you'll love the new forums. Enjoy!
Sign in to follow this  
knotzen

work in the modern world

Recommended Posts

So, I'm back at work, sitting in a windowless office, my whole day's work done on a computer--the life of the modern-day information/knowledge worker.

 

Is this really a better way to provide housing, food, and clothing for myself? As opposed to a couple hundred years ago, when I would grow/raise my own food, perhaps sell some things I produce to others, or trade.

 

Now, somebody pwns my ass, to the point of what time I can start work, eat lunch, etc. In a more subsistence lifestyle gettin' by is more risky, but you yourself are responsible for getting up every morning and doing the work it takes to survive.

 

Consider the robin. Nobody tells a robin when to crap. They are their own GD bird, thankyouverymuch. The flip side is, they spend most of their life looking for food, and expend a lot of energy building a home in which to raise robinlets.

 

Is the tradeoff worth it? The risk of personal responsibility/ability/sufficiency for freedom from control by another?

 

Probably I wouldn't have the time or energy to go to the mountains if I were providing for myself. Putting in 40 hours a week does give a person a lot of freedom outside of work.

 

Just wonderin'...UNCAGE MY SOUL!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yelrotflmao.gif

 

I probably wouldn't need it--I would be getting more exercise in the course of providing for myself.

Edited by knotzen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you'd like there's plenty of openings in Nepali villages. You could grow your own millet, then carry it 2,000 vertical feet to the road so it can be threshed under the tires of passing busses.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It sounds like you need to find an employer that encourages flexible work hours

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... thumbs_up.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK, so "shut up and appreciate what you have." I get the message.

 

There's just no pleasing some people (me). crazy.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... thumbs_up.gif

However, I didn't have enough cash to go through the Starbucks drive-through this morning. thumbs_down.gif Life can be so cruel.**

 

 

** ironic sarcasm

Edited by knotzen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... thumbs_up.gif

metaphorically those are all hazards of the corporate world. substitute emotional uncomfort for physical.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... thumbs_up.gif

metaphorically those are all hazards of the corporate world. substitute emotional uncomfort for physical.

 

Exactly right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Knotzen,

You don't have do be a subsistence farmer to do something different. What's important to you?

 

Bust out of the cube!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You could squat an abandoned lumbermill in 11worth & earn money for foos/gear by doing bavarian dances for tourist.

 

Yo! I'm on it. smileysex5.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Launch your own business. Its like the difference between top ropping and leading trad. And the loøse your ass exposure can be exhilarating.

Edited by still_climbin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Launch your own business. Its like the difference between top ropping and leading trad. And the loose your ass exposure can be exhilarating.

 

That's a good analogy.

 

shocked.giflaugh.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Knotzen,

You don't have do be a subsistence farmer to do something different. What's important to you?

 

Bust out of the cube!

 

You're right, JackY. thumbs_up.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
So, I'm back at work, sitting in a windowless office, my whole day's work done on a computer--the life of the modern-day information/knowledge worker.

 

Is this really a better way to provide housing, food, and clothing for myself? As opposed to a couple hundred years ago, when I would grow/raise my own food, perhaps sell some things I produce to others, or trade.

 

Now, somebody pwns my ass, to the point of what time I can start work, eat lunch, etc. In a more subsistence lifestyle gettin' by is more risky, but you yourself are responsible for getting up every morning and doing the work it takes to survive.

 

Consider the robin. Nobody tells a robin when to crap. They are their own GD bird, thankyouverymuch. The flip side is, they spend most of their life looking for food, and expend a lot of energy building a home in which to raise robinlets.

 

Is the tradeoff worth it? The risk of personal responsibility/ability/sufficiency for freedom from control by another?

 

Probably I wouldn't have the time or energy to go to the mountains if I were providing for myself. Putting in 40 hours a week does give a person a lot of freedom outside of work.

 

Just wonderin'...UNCAGE MY SOUL!

 

It is interesting to note that you chose robin in your analogy. Represents a need for family...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
It is interesting to note that you chose robin in your analogy. Represents a need for family...

 

I was thinking a desire for young men in green tights.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

×