RuMR Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 They would complain about the USPS but they aren't stupid enough to mail something 2 days before Christmas and expect it to get there on time. Funny Jon, but 2 days was 5 days, and the worker told me that Priority Mail would get there on time. And as promised, I haven't whined in the past week, and you won't see another whine from me. quit crying about it then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 It's embarrassing that our country hasn't done more to help them. What/who is our country? Federal, State, County governments? I tire of the attitude toward government that empowers with expectation of panaceic/utopian effect; dream on. If you're passionate about an issue, it's up to you to administrate an affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The following is a quote from a relative of a deceased miner. "Three hours later he come back and said they wasn't." Ignoring the context of the mining accident, isn't it embarrassing that in a country as rich and modern as ours, we can't get full-blooded Americans to demonstrate elementary-school-level understanding of verbs? I wonder if there's some more evil underpinning, e.g. mining companies know that they need to exploit undereducated impoverished workers, so there's no incentive to promote education, economic growth, etc., in the area. Sounds like this person could have used a grammar lesson from good ole W!! W is a "full-blooded American" and he " demonstrates an elementary-school-level understanding of verbs." He is the president so he has to be, like, really smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Using such a tasteless example pretty much undermines the entire discussion. So here's a tangent: was it appropriate for the journalist to use a direct quote? Or should the comment had been paraphrased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I tire of the attitude toward government that empowers with expectation of panaceic/utopian effect; dream on. If you're passionate about an issue, it's up to you to administrate an affect. Aguments about panaceic governments are a bit of a red herring when we spend billions on white elephant space missile programs; clearly that money could be better spent elsewhere. Gary mit do well to chew on this article edit: And it's a sad statement when people consider a screw a technological marvel to manufacture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Funny Jon, but 2 days was 5 days Which is still within their stipulated delivery time. Or does the math whiz not understand averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 "I think younger workers — first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government — promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 And Monkeys will fly out of my Butt! This I've got to see. Gary-bashing brings out all the good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 So here's a tangent: was it appropriate for the journalist to use a direct quote? Or should the comment had been paraphrased? I don't think journalistic ethics allow for paraphrasing, though if I'd been that journalist, I might have looked for another quote as the bad grammar distracts from the message. Including that piece of grammar may have been part of the journalistic intent though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 G.W. is an idiot. That's news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 "I think younger workers — first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government — promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005 Hey, is GW from Tallsmansville, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerminatorX Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Another example of Americans' inability to demonstrate basic understanding of grammar . . . "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" —George W. Bush, Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 It can be hard to know what's sacred around here. But regardless, I admit that I am an asshole at times. I agree. I was quite aware that what I was saying was edgy, but without anything provocative, Spray becomes dull. The intensity of the backlash did take me by surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 No, he's from Oilmansville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You fuckers all need to fuck off and shut the fuck up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 "certainly demonstrates the diversity of the word..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerminatorX Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 But regardless, I admit that I am an asshole at times. a REAL American would have said, "irregardless." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Grammar lesson #1: There are two types of language usage 1. prescriptive 2. descriptive The first type is the properly parsed, tensed, spelled, etc word. The second is how people speak. Grammar lesson #2: When using descriptive language, people follow the unwritten rules of their location. This is something like a dialect. You will notice that even though a group of miners may use "improper" grammar, you will also notice that they are consistent in their misusage. They are merely adhering to the rules of the spoken word in their part of the world. Grammar lesson #3: You cannot accurately gage one's intellect or education by the way they speak when in their own environment. For example, when I am home in Montana, I sound a hell of a lot different than when I am in Seattle. When I am in Denmark, I speak with a strong provincial accent. Basically, I sound like a country bumpkin wherever I go and feel like I am home. So ease up on these folks, okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You sure got a pretty mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You sure got a pretty mouth And you have an ugly mind. That book gives me the creeps. Great grammar lessons in it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 So here's a tangent: was it appropriate for the journalist to use a direct quote? Or should the comment had been paraphrased? I don't think journalistic ethics allow for paraphrasing... Ah, yes, the Mistress of Talking Out Her Ass returns... You can paraphrase in journalism but you can't put the altered words in quotes. And gary, you're a stud for not whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I studied on it some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaseabbott Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Gary eats babies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You sure got a pretty mouth And you have an ugly mind. That book gives me the creeps. Great grammar lessons in it though... The humor is that I used that phrase in its historical connotation of comment on the speech of another... knowing there was a probability the more recent sexual connotation would be recognized. It was your ugly mind that chose to receive only the sexual implication. I love this, you rule, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You can paraphrase in journalism but you can't put the altered words in quotes. Meh, that's why I said, "I think". I wasn't sure, my error, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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