Ducknut Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 survival Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I take my big red poofy on pretty much all my winter trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 nice, I had a teddy bear once too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Extra pair of dry gloves. Extra bavaclava. Hand warmers. First aid kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock. Â Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 My turn to call BS Dru. Let's do a test. I'll have you lay down in the snow while I spend an hour making a fire. Sure I could get a rope under you or a pack. But if you have a broken back, which would you rather have under you, a nice flat foam pad, or a rope? Â Tell you what - let's do this test, which is more reflective of real life conditions. Â You and I will do an unequipped bivi somewhere. No tents, stoves or sleeping bags. Only normal day-trip winter climbing clothing and gear (pack, screws, ice tools etc). Â You will get a foam pad. Hell, you can bring a Thermarest if you want. I will get a fire. You can't come anywhere near my fire and I can't come anywhere near your foam pad. We will see who is warmer through the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Dru, when everything is wet, can you start a fire effectively with matches and a little firestarter? I don't think I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock. Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.  Those suckers are always breaking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Dru, when everything is wet, can you start a fire effectively with matches and a little firestarter? I don't think I can. Â Yes, but I've had lots of practice. YEARS of firestartiung experience. And I have taken 4 (count 'em) NFLSe (National Firestarting Leadership School (ewe)) courses. And I wear a sheepskin vest. And I've chopped more bolts than you will ever place. So get out your measuring tape but you'll need a frickin' odometer to measure mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I spent 5 minutes on a concrete driveway one time when it was 30 degrees out. Â I became very cold very fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 when you have white gas, the world is your tinderbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 when you have white gas, the world is your tinderbox. napalm my dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 paraffin and dryer lint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 paraffin and dryer lint Or Paris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 My turn to call BS Dru. Let's do a test. I'll have you lay down in the snow while I spend an hour making a fire. Sure I could get a rope under you or a pack. But if you have a broken back, which would you rather have under you, a nice flat foam pad, or a rope? Â Tell you what - let's do this test, which is more reflective of real life conditions. Â You and I will do an unequipped bivi somewhere. No tents, stoves or sleeping bags. Only normal day-trip winter climbing clothing and gear (pack, screws, ice tools etc). Â You will get a foam pad. Hell, you can bring a Thermarest if you want. I will get a fire. You can't come anywhere near my fire and I can't come anywhere near your foam pad. We will see who is warmer through the night. Okay, but I get to break your back first to make it fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Please, make it stop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 If I dream of Paris Hilton tonight, I'm gonna find you Karl and pin your eyes open and make you watch 15 hours of Britnay Spears videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock. Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.  Those suckers are always breaking down.  Mine won't pass emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 they do smell bad on the outside, as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Fucking Taun-Taun-necks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock. Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.  Those suckers are always breaking down.  Mine won't pass emissions.  Better one that doesn't pass emissions than one that does, and is constantly doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbconlin Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I say Yes to: Â foam mini-pad (perhaps used in conjunction with pack, etc) epic (or other ultra- ultra-lite bivy), maybe down jacket firestarter handwarmers "rasta kit" Â NO to: Â stove fuel beer porn (or swimsuit issue or lingerie ads) mp3s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Which would you carry for emergency shelter (either weigh about 9 oz)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 So, How is Snugtop   I take food, extra water and clothes.  You can make a "pad" out if tree branches to insulate the victim. I think I will start taking a small stove and pot and some hot chocolate mix as it will give the victim something to do while I go for help or, if incapacitated, then the warm liquid would raise spirits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouCanEat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 You may find this thread useful  http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12768&highlight=unplanned+bivi  Or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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