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The rack changes depending on the climb.

 

Bestest pieces ever - Larger Metolius astro nuts. I can hro them at a crack and they stick. Leeper cam hooks are the shit once you learn to trust them. I cary a set of the regular and a set of the wides. From there small cams in the fingertip sizes.

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(I climb C1-C3, this is my second year.)

 

Normal clean rack:

 

Cams: DMM 3/4 through 4

Hybrid Aliens: 2 sets

WC Zero: #3

Camp Ballnutz: 1-5

 

Nuts: DMM 1-11

Brass Nuts: Trango Brassies 1-8

Micro Nuts: HB Offsets 0-6

Tricams: 1/2-2

Cam Hooks: Normal and wide (2 ea)

Hooks: BD Talon, BD Cliffhanger, Pika (1 1/2 - 3 inches)

 

Pieces I use the least:

Larger Ballnutz (but I have partners who loves them)

#3 Zero Cam (placed once)

#0 HB (never placed, this thing is tiny)

 

 

Things that sit in the haul bag:

Nuts: BD Microstoppers, DMM Peanuts

Hexes: WC 3-8

Cam Hooks: Fragile Flake, Micro

BD Cliffhanger (redundant with smallest Pika)

 

Pieces I use seldom but glad to carry:

Large Pika hooks - turn a spooky move into a solid placement.

 

I have a bunch of pitons, peckers, copperheads, and a bolt kit but haven't needed them.

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Its really just a bunch of junk I got on sale. If I could do it over (and had the money to do so), I'd buy a set of the C4s, maybe double up on some. But like a lot of people, I'd keep the red and yellow aliens out of my current rack.

 

but what you want in your rack depends on what you're climbing etc blah blah blah. racks are only aid if you french free.

 

**nevermind...just read the title...aid rack **

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(I climb C1-C3, this is my second year.)

 

Normal clean rack:

 

Cams: DMM 3/4 through 4

Hybrid Aliens: 2 sets

WC Zero: #3

Camp Ballnutz: 1-5

 

Nuts: DMM 1-11

Brass Nuts: Trango Brassies 1-8

Micro Nuts: HB Offsets 0-6

Tricams: 1/2-2

Cam Hooks: Normal and wide (2 ea)

Hooks: BD Talon, BD Cliffhanger, Pika (1 1/2 - 3 inches)

 

Pieces I use the least:

Larger Ballnutz (but I have partners who loves them)

#3 Zero Cam (placed once)

#0 HB (never placed, this thing is tiny)

 

 

Things that sit in the haul bag:

Nuts: BD Microstoppers, DMM Peanuts

Hexes: WC 3-8

Cam Hooks: Fragile Flake, Micro

BD Cliffhanger (redundant with smallest Pika)

 

Pieces I use seldom but glad to carry:

Large Pika hooks - turn a spooky move into a solid placement.

 

I have a bunch of pitons, peckers, copperheads, and a bolt kit but haven't needed them.

 

Aren't those hybrids very difficult to come by?

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IF you get serious it will look something like this in a few years.

 

PINS:

25 blades

30 arrows

20+ beaks

Tons of angles-all sizes and mods

 

Cams:

Lots like 2.5 set hybrids and 2 sets regular plus tcus

Lots of cams to #6 friend

more nuts that you know what to do with

 

Other:

Screamers

Tons of biners- they get trashed on walls, plan on losing 5-15 a season.

A swager, cause I would have spent like 1000 dollars on heads by now.

Hooks-lots of all sizes and mods

Ballnuts for expando

 

 

Liquor and a gun.

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The rack changes depending on the climb.

Yep.

 

I have noticed that what matters most on an aid route is the comfort and diversion factor. Considering that it's largely a mental game when it comes to stepping up onto shit to gain another 3-5 feet, being miserably cold or dehydrated or cramped or just bored silly can have a detrimental effect on your desire to start clipping into those next placements. The most comprehensive (or dialed) rack in the world will be less effective if your head is wishing for somewhere other than the route you're currently hanging from...

 

Make sure you are content in those aid slings and your chances of finishing the route go up considerably.

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Here is example racks for 3 climbs on El Cap I've done. These 3 climbs represent Easy, Moderate, and Hard. These racks will allow you to clip a lot of gear, by the time you hit Moderate you want to clip a lot of stuff cause you could fall really far.

 

Also, when I climbed Uncle Bens in Squamish, we brought a really light rack. Forceing us to run it out really far! This is possible on routes that are really fixed and have shorter pitches. Climbing a big wall with a free rack is really nice!

 

Mescalito:

3 arrow

beak

4ea cams to 2"

3ea to 3"

2 each to 4"

1 big cam

1 ea nuts

hooks

a few heads

 

Zenyatta Mondatta

2 beaks

8 arrows

5 blades

few angles

3ea cams to 3"

1 ea nuts

15-30 heads(we placed 15-18 when we did it, party after us placed none) Just depends on how much is fixed

hooks

 

Plastic Surgery Disaster:

8 beaks

2 rurps

12 blades

12 arrows

2 ea angles to 3/4"

3 ea cams to 3.5"

1 ea nuts

40 heads

hooks(all types!)

keyhole hangers(RP are the best, keyholes are rad on hard routes)

OE800 will make you happier!

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Here is example racks for 3 climbs on El Cap I've done. These 3 climbs represent Easy, Moderate, and Hard. These racks will allow you to clip a lot of gear, by the time you hit Moderate you want to clip a lot of stuff cause you could fall really far.

 

Also, when I climbed Uncle Bens in Squamish, we brought a really light rack. Forceing us to run it out really far! This is possible on routes that are really fixed and have shorter pitches. Climbing a big wall with a free rack is really nice!

 

Mescalito:

3 arrow

beak

4ea cams to 2"

3ea to 3"

2 each to 4"

1 big cam

1 ea nuts

hooks

a few heads

 

Zenyatta Mondatta

2 beaks

8 arrows

5 blades

few angles

3ea cams to 3"

1 ea nuts

15-30 heads(we placed 15-18 when we did it, party after us placed none) Just depends on how much is fixed

hooks

 

Plastic Surgery Disaster:

8 beaks

2 rurps

12 blades

12 arrows

2 ea angles to 3/4"

3 ea cams to 3.5"

1 ea nuts

40 heads

hooks(all types!)

keyhole hangers(RP are the best, keyholes are rad on hard routes)

OE800 will make you happier!

 

Hey, great information all. Jake, what's a keyhole hangar? Also, can you give me more informationo on swaging devices to make your own heads. Thanks!

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Keyhole hanger

rp_keyhole.jpg

 

To make heads you need a nicopress swager tool. They are expensive(bench mount 250)! If you aren't placeing a few 100 heads each year to not bother, you could climb most tons(!) of El Cap routes and never even place more than 100 heads. I sell heads and other stuff cheaper than you will find it anywhere(I'm not joking!). This is good option for almost anyone besides people who do F.A.s

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my aid rack is

 

3 rurps

6 beaks

8 kbs

10 las

6 angles

doubles of micro nuts

doubles of hb offsets

doubles of reg nuts

set of aliens

set of tcus

doubles cams up to 3.5 triples of some

hooks x 2

cam hooks

heads

rivet hangers

tie offs

screamers

bolt kit

 

this has gotten me up most everything ive tryed, as well as a few FAs. and when youve got a partner to combine racks with its awsome. its always nice to have alot and its always nice to have a little. see what your style is and what your comfort level is and youll know what to cary. i dont climb anything as hard as jake but for some one who likes to nail and have some adventure, a rack like mine would probably suit. pleanty of routes where put up before all off this modified shit, so go have an adventure and leave some of the newer tech at home.

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my aid rack is

 

3 rurps

6 beaks

8 kbs

10 las

6 angles

doubles of micro nuts

doubles of hb offsets

doubles of reg nuts

set of aliens

set of tcus

doubles cams up to 3.5 triples of some

hooks x 2

cam hooks

heads

rivet hangers

tie offs

screamers

bolt kit

 

this has gotten me up most everything ive tryed, as well as a few FAs. and when youve got a partner to combine racks with its awsome. its always nice to have alot and its always nice to have a little. see what your style is and what your comfort level is and youll know what to cary. i dont climb anything as hard as jake but for some one who likes to nail and have some adventure, a rack like mine would probably suit. pleanty of routes where put up before all off this modified shit, so go have an adventure and leave some of the newer tech at home.

 

How many screamers will you take on an aid climb in the A2+ to A3 range?

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my aid rack is

 

3 rurps

6 beaks

8 kbs

10 las

6 angles

doubles of micro nuts

doubles of hb offsets

doubles of reg nuts

set of aliens

set of tcus

doubles cams up to 3.5 triples of some

hooks x 2

cam hooks

heads

rivet hangers

tie offs

screamers

bolt kit

 

this has gotten me up most everything ive tryed, as well as a few FAs. and when youve got a partner to combine racks with its awsome. its always nice to have alot and its always nice to have a little. see what your style is and what your comfort level is and youll know what to cary. i dont climb anything as hard as jake but for some one who likes to nail and have some adventure, a rack like mine would probably suit. pleanty of routes where put up before all off this modified shit, so go have an adventure and leave some of the newer tech at home.

 

How many screamers will you take on an aid climb in the A2+ to A3 range?

 

I own 5 so... pleanty of people have climbed with out them, they are just for peice of mind!

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