astrov Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Let's see, how to phrase this without invoking the controversial ice tool / alpine tool dichotomy ... I am looking for some tools to use on New England ice falls and on alpine routes out here later in the year. I would like to get Grivel Alp Wings, Charlet Moser Quarks, BD Cobras, or some other fancy tool. (However I would consider BD Rages, the bent shaft Prophet, Viper, or Axar, etc.) I am considering getting some Alp Wings for $100 each. Please make me an offer if you have something you're even thinking about selling ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrov Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 I am still looking ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I would like to get Grivel Alp Wings, Charlet Moser Quarks, BD Cobras, or some other fancy tool. .... I am considering getting some Alp Wings for $100 each. Â if you can pick up Alp Wings for $100 ea ... what are you waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrov Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 right, should have mentioned that they are no longer available, and that I never really had the option to get them ... just the victim of some bait and switch advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syklone Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 How about $150? http://www.sportextreme.com/pz315x314yUSD/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 How about $150? http://www.sportextreme.com/pz315x314yUSD/ Â Those guys take like 2 months to just process your order. Â How much for a pair of aztar's (with a bunch of extra picks)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 good deal on aztars - http://www.montanaice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 you might check with Pro Mountain Sports. I saw some used Grivel tools in Jim's shop. I'm not sure it there was a set there, or just a few odd tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Gano Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 (edited) How about $150? http://www.sportextreme.com/pz315x314yUSD/ Â Those guys take like 2 months to just process your order. Â How much for a pair of aztar's (with a bunch of extra picks)? Â I have only fondeled the aztar's at hyperspud, so I may be talking out my ass, but I do have alp wings, so here is my $.02 . Though they are both marketed similarly as a crossover between waterice tools and alpine tools, they have a different feel to them. Alp wings are long and a bit heavier (thought pretty light as well). This gives them a more 'throw of a ball' type swing, whereas the aztars (and, I am told, most CM tools) have a easy 'flick of the wrist' type swing. Also, the Grivel tool have a high degree of modularity. The adze/hammer can be remove (it's fixed on aztars, I believe) and come with a removable 'horn', as well as another finger rest you can buy from Grivel. With these toys you can use the Alp wing to drytool pretty well. The CM lacks some of that modularity. Â Anyways both are probably excellent tools, just get a deal, use the $ you save to buy some overpriced gas, and get out and climb more. Edited September 27, 2005 by Jake_Gano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatinoutliquor Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I have also had a very bad experience buying ice tools from Sportsextreme.com. Misquoted price, charged me for shipping upon reciept, (already paid) and no customer service cause they are in Denmark or something. Wouldn't return emails and phone call. Suck suck suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrov Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 wow, I am sure am lonely. Without any icetools and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 (edited) Duh Edited October 3, 2005 by Dr_Crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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