Dr_Crash Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 My helmet today took the blow for me as a coffee table sized chunk of a bigger block went straight down on me and hit my head, then kept on damaging most of my right side, from shoulder to ankle (various scrapes, a nice deep gash, bruises and other fun things). My buddy who got some of the other part of the block on is head (and on his leg, making a big gash down to the bone, ouch!---I feel lucky having escaped stitches) may also need to say thanks to his helmet. The helmet, a BD half dome, is now retired. The foam is nicely cracked inside. Helmets when rock falls on you. Let's see: 30 stitches in the head while skiing 2 years ago (earning my nickname), a car accident in November, rock on my head today... Maybe time to get a nickname that does not tempt fate as much? drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Holy crap! Where were you climbing when this happened? I'm glad you're OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairns Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Let's see: 30 stitches in the head while skiing 2 years ago (earning my nickname), a car accident in November, rock on my head today... Maybe time to get a nickname that does not tempt fate as much? drC By all means tempt fate, but try Dr Cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemalot Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 damn...glad you guys are still alive! where were you guys climbing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Crikey Dr. Crash! Olyclimber is glad you and your partner are OK! Where were you climbing at? You may want to make a trip report based on the POV of your helmet for submittal to Alpinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowByrd Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Castle Rock, right? Damn I'm glad we went to Peshastin. Are you OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 are you sure it wasn't one of those mountain goats driven to suicide by Mike Layton? Or, HELL, it may have BEEN Layton executing a sneak attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dr. Crash told me that he was leading the first pitch on Midway and someone on the first part of the second pitch dislodged a flake. I'm a bit surprised, because that route appeared to be pretty solid on the few times I've done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Coondog will post a full TR with pics. I was tempted to get a pic of my friend's gash but hmmm, we had better things to do My friend had climbed on the flake, and then went down to replace pro, and when he got back on (hands on top of the flake, feet leveraging against bottom from what I understand), the whole thing went off. He said it felt bomber the first time, and never wiggled. drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Good to hear you are ok! Speaking of death flakes on Castle Rock, can someone pls trundle that certain doom flake about 2/3 way up p1 Sabre next time there are not idle groupies at the base of the route? That thing is a little scary for so well-travelled a route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Please consider that: a) large rocks trundled from great height can take surprisingly unpredictable paths. b) Castle Rock looms above Hwy 2 (not to mention lower Castle Rock climbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 You got hit by a "coffee table" size rock and just took some minor damage!??! I call bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 You got hit by a "coffee table" size rock and just took some minor damage!??! I call bullshit. What? Just because it hit him doesn't mean it necessarily hit him square on top of the helmet pointing straight down. Obviously from the story, it was a glancing blow. So shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 It's just a flesh wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Good to hear you are ok! Speaking of death flakes on Castle Rock, can someone pls trundle that certain doom flake about 2/3 way up p1 Sabre next time there are not idle groupies at the base of the route? That thing is a little scary for so well-travelled a route. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coondog Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Coondog will post a full TR with pics. As promised... sans pics. We don't have a pic of the scar from where this chunk popped, but we'd be interested in seeing one if someone has the chance in the near future. I can add a couple pics of us toting Craig out once i get them. Sun, 4/25/05. L'worth: Castle Rock:: Midway Clapton leading 2nd pitch, believe he's at the large ledge just before the traverse-y portion; belayed by Golan. Craig next to Golan after having lead 1st pitch, belaying up Yves, aka "Dr_Crash." If this image link works, believe Clapton was on the obvious ledge just before the rightward traverse on the 2nd pitch. For more detail, look at MattP's excellent topo @ http://www.seanet.com/~mattp/Midway/midtopo.pdf ; believe flake that popped directly under the "5.5" marking to the left of the optional belay on the 2nd pitch. Clapton downclimbed to backclean a piece, then executed the same move off the ledge he'd made previously, only this time a piece of rock approximately 7' in height, 3' across and 6-8" wide popped with no tell-tale wiggling or creaking, fortunately depositing Clapton sideways directly back onto the ledge he'd just been leaving, while he immediately began screaming "ROCK!!" of course. Our coffee-table-ish size friend tumbled, and apparently hit hard enough to air-burst into a substantial number of smaller size pieces. Craig, at the first belay, was struck by 1-2 pieces of unknown size: major piece directly struck him on the top rear-left of his helmet, glanced off and then struck his left shoulder. Second strike was to Craig's lower left shin, leaving a 4" gash exposing his tibia; believe this piece then struck his foot/ankle, leading us to suspect it may have broken toe(s). Golan, belaying at top first-pitch, dodged as far away from rockfall as he could and fortunately wasn't struck. Yves struck directly on head by a rock of fair size; apparently separate hits from smaller pieces to right shoulder, right arm/elbow, pretty substantial hit to top right thigh with substantial bruising, and right lower leg with some scrapes / bruising. Rock debris continued down face of Castle Rock to pepper area around the 3 parked cars at trailhead, and one piece approx. softball size struck yellow line of Hiwy 2 and peppered... Golan then assisted Craig; he tied off Craig's belay line to Yves, tied off his own belay line to Clapton, assessed condition of folks, and set plan. Lowered Clapton down to belay ledge to assist him, then lowered Yves to ground, re-rigged lines, then lowered Craig with Clapton attending / assisting. Then Golan rapped off and lines were pulled. On ground, I checked out Yves and found him to be in mild state of shock; helped him clean off his elbow hit, checked to make sure he wasn't bleeding too badly elsewhere, and sat him down to eat a donut and not wander off. Once Craig to ground, I looked at his leg and though seeing 3-4" of his bone exposed wasn't exactly heartening was pleased to see that it had already clotted well and there was little bleeding. He was in pretty serious shock after shot to head and shin. Checked for other bleeding, then washed out his shin gash and bandaged him up to keep clean while we got him out. Yves, in his infinite generosity and slightly reduced mental state, kept trying to feed Craig donuts, which I didn't think was a great idea since I think Craig had enough already without spewing rainbow sprinkle donuts once juiced up on painkillers and antibiotics. I loaded Yves down with an extra pack & ropes, and set him off down trail to get my truck ready to transport Craig into the L'worth clinic. Only took us a few minutes to set our plan, pack up, and get Craig mobile down trail. Took turns carrying Craig in arm-bar, then once to mellower ground just helped him along with one of us under each arm. Third to halfway down trail the pain of carrying seemed to have blown through the fog of the rock hits, and he started hopping down trail on one leg so as not to suffer our bouncing him along. He made it a most of the way down one-leg hopping with a shoulder to lean on, then Clapton piggy-backed him out. Threw him into a nest of sleeping pads & bags in the back of truck, then straight into the clinic. Just under two hours from time of rockfall to getting Craig & Yves checked out in L'worth clinic, where we spent a delightful afternoon... x-rays, irrigation and painkillers, o' my. After leisurely afternoon in faux Bavaria's clinic, a leisurely drive home, some take-out Snappy Dragon, and lots of collective "holy crap are we glad to be alive" reflections and a couple well-deserved Observations: 1. We were very lucky: considering everyone was basically lined up like bowling pins in the line of fire from this rockfall, we were very lucky the rock didn't catch Clapton when it came off, very lucky it burst into pieces, and very lucky no one was injured any worse... This could have played out very differently... i'll assume most folks who've been in a similar situation feel the same way afterward... 2. We'd assumed that a route as well-traveled as Midway would naturally be in pretty bomb-proof shape, but fortunately had our helmets on... If we hadn't... well, again, this incident could have been far more traumatic. 3. Only possible thing would be to consciously have tried to belay from a more "out of the way" position, but not even sure how possible that was given the terrain... 4. We all kept very cool and were zero-bullshit in getting Craig out safe asap. And hat's off to him nutting up and hopping his own as out most of the way... Hardman. Here's to with your buddies after something like this... Buhk-soon indeed. Live long, climb strong. --Cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Hey, I did pride myself in taking care of my shock risk. Don't go around saying I was mildly shocked when you came by drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Damn! Thats some nasty stuff. Again, glad you guys are ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nak Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 The doughnut thing was a bit surreal. Pink frosting and sprinkles of colors not found in nature: a candy colored clown doughnut. Dr. Crash stood over me and continue to stuff pieces in my mouth. Next time, I'm not going to hold the belay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Good job keeping cool, guys. Glad it wasn't any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Good job under pressure. For what its worth, you should never try to feed someone who is injured--especially if they have a head injury or may go into shock. Glad everyone's ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Why is that? Because blood will be diverted to the digestive system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman_Clyde Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 There are a couple of reasons not to give a head-injured or multiply injured person solid food: first, if the person does happen to start having seizures, he's more likely to vomit and aspirate a la Jimi Hendrix or John Bonham. If the person is in significant enough shock to have mental status changes, he may not even be able to swallow properly and could put the doughnut directly into his own airway. (Fortunately, most people probably have enough common sense not to shove a donut or pour Red Bull down a semi-conscious person's throat.) Secondly, maybe less important, if the person looks like he's going to need the operating room, it's safer to put a person under general anesthesia if he doesn't have a stomach full of doughnuts. Clear liquids, meaning any liquids without dairy products or particulate material, are still not good to aspirate, but they cause less of a reaction if they do get into your lungs. Withholding liquids from an injured person in a backcountry setting is probably not indicated, if it's a long way to civilization and the person is at risk of dehydration in the meantime. If you're days away from help, you'll probably need to risk feeding the person as well, unless they're mentally not safe as explained above. If you're just a few miles from Leavenworth, better to hold the doughnuts and give Gatorade or Powerade or something like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 You got hit by a "coffee table" size rock and just took some minor damage!??! I call bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Why is that? Because blood will be diverted to the digestive system? no dummy, you don't want chocolate sprinkles flying out of his head wound due to ^ICP, it makes a mess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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