rob Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Who cares? He's dead. excellent point, super insightful. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Who cares? He's dead. GEORGE TAKEI IS DEAD??? OMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 BREAKING: GEORGE TAKEI IS GAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 BREAKING: GEORGE TAKEI IS GAY. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Or right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Beckerich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Is it that gay people love him too and want to claim him, or that antiestablishment-for-spite types can't stand the rest of us having any kind of classic America childhood hero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Is it that gay people love him too and want to claim him, or that antiestablishment-for-spite types can't stand the rest of us having any kind of classic America childhood hero? Or, maybe he was gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Beckerich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Is it that gay people love him too and want to claim him, or that antiestablishment-for-spite types can't stand the rest of us having any kind of classic America childhood hero? Or, maybe he was gay. This is totally irrelevant to my question. I'm sure all sorts of people we'd never suspect have all sorts of varying sexual proclivities. People chose to keep that stuff private for their own reasons. You don't "out" someone because they're gay, you out them for your own agenda. Edited October 5, 2013 by Ben Beckerich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Beckerich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 And I think it's fairly rare for people who engage in homosexual activity to "be gay" to begin with... Just as hardly anyone can be classified as entirely heterosexual, just as few can be classified as entirely homosexual. You have people who generally prefer heterosexual sex, people who generally prefer homosexual sex, and then everyone else somewhere in between. It's not at all uncommon for men claiming to be heterosexual in lifestyle to like to engage in homo sexual activity. So even if he did once, sometimes, or even frequently screw dudes, he might still not have been "gay." Calling John Wayne "gay" is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to smear him, to shatter the contemptible hero-image we have of our boyhood icon of American toughness and masculinity... "haha, dumb American (says the croc-wearing, ear-gaged anti-American American)- your straight, tough hero is a dick eating fag." That's how it feels, anyway. I couldn't care less what or who he did in the sack. Or all my other dead boyhood heroes so many spitefully antiestablishment types have tried to do the same thing to. It's the nature of the attack I don't care for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 For instance, your agenda may be revisiting all of the Duke's classic films, but want to be able to view them with a "twist" of pizazz thrown in. "Well, howdy there pilgrim!" [video:youtube]9O8oLqY2sxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 So even if he did once, sometimes, or even frequently screw dudes, he might still not have been "gay." Calling John Wayne "gay" is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to smear him, to shatter the contemptible hero-image we have of our boyhood icon of American toughness and masculinity... "haha, dumb American (says the croc-wearing, ear-gaged anti-American American)- your straight, tough hero is a dick eating fag." So your hero was a shade of gay, so what? Why is that so bad? Calm down there sailor! I'm not sure why you blame others for wreaking your childhood delusions. The facts are always stranger than fiction, most people learn that with age. He can still be an image of toughness and masculinity for ya...those can be gay too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Beckerich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 So even if he did once, sometimes, or even frequently screw dudes, he might still not have been "gay." Calling John Wayne "gay" is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to smear him, to shatter the contemptible hero-image we have of our boyhood icon of American toughness and masculinity... "haha, dumb American (says the croc-wearing, ear-gaged anti-American American)- your straight, tough hero is a dick eating fag." So your hero was a shade of gay, so what? Why is that so bad? Calm down there sailor! I'm not sure why you blame others for wreaking your childhood delusions. The facts are always stranger than fiction, most people learn that with age. He can still be an image of toughness and masculinity for ya...those can be gay too. You're missing the point entirely. I already said I don't care if he screwed dudes, or even if he would have called himself "gay." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Good on you. Have you ever tried wearing a pair of Crocs? People tell me they're pretty comfortable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I couldn't care less what or who he did in the sack. Or all my other dead boyhood heroes so many spitefully antiestablishment types have tried to do the same thing to. It's the nature of the attack I don't care for. You obviously care enough to put it on a public form for discussion. Just say'n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Good on you. Have you ever tried wearing a pair of Crocs? People tell me they're pretty comfortable! i had sex w/ a woman once wearing only crocs - does that make me half gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 i believe the premise was that if you wear crocs you're an Anti-American American Homophobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 ipso facto, yeah, 1/2 gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 i can live w/ that - i've always said "i don't think i'm gay, but maybe i just ain't met the right man yet" - my wife has never been impressed w/ this, but then i've never trusted her strange attraction to madonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 a sound approach. don't fence yourself in with conclusions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Beckerich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I couldn't care less what or who he did in the sack. Or all my other dead boyhood heroes so many spitefully antiestablishment types have tried to do the same thing to. It's the nature of the attack I don't care for. You obviously care enough to put it on a public form for discussion. Just say'n. I thought you guys were quicker than this. What's my "point?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I couldn't care less what or who he did in the sack. Or all my other dead boyhood heroes so many spitefully antiestablishment types have tried to do the same thing to. It's the nature of the attack I don't care for. You obviously care enough to put it on a public form for discussion. Just say'n. I thought you guys were quicker than this. What's my "point?" i never met anyone who described ole-betard-dave as "quick" who gives a shit if john wayne was gay? regardless, if he was, it is funny, given that he played characters that were unambiguously NOT ghey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 [video:youtube]x-ol_v5X4QE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I couldn't care less what or who he did in the sack. Or all my other dead boyhood heroes so many spitefully antiestablishment types have tried to do the same thing to. It's the nature of the attack I don't care for. You obviously care enough to put it on a public form for discussion. Just say'n. I thought you guys were quicker than this. What's my "point?" i never met anyone who described ole-betard-dave as "quick" Sharp as a marble and twice as dense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Yay spray is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Yay spray is back! It was just temporarily sequestered due to gub'ment shutdowns but in the end was determined to be an essential service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 spray weren't dead, just sleep'n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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