dbb Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Anybody used pants (like the Cloudveil Symmetry) made of this stuff around the Cascades? They definitely seem warmer than pants made from Dryskin Dymanic, but is this fabric too warm for summer alpine climbs in the cascades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 If your interested in pants for climbing stay away from the Symmetry and go with something that has a climbing cut; the Symmetry has a big cuff (which isn't really adjustable) that fits ski boots fine, but not clkimbing boots. They're also designed for long legged thin people. A different cut than normal. Dryskin Extreme won't be too warm for most of the cascades in summer when you'd want pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriznitch Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I've got the mammut champ pants. they're pretty awesome for multiple conditions, climbing, hiking, skiing Totally doable for summer trips without longjohns. Require a belt when I'm not wearing a harness. i usually wear shorts when it's nice though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana_Climber Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I have a pair of the Symmetry but I've mostly used them for backcountry skiing in Montana. My normal setup, no matter how cold, even down to -40F, is silkweight tops and bottom and then Cloudveil Symmetry pants and jacket. That's all I need. It works for me for ice climbing as well. I have used them for some spring climbs in the Sierras but unless I'm in the shadows with wind, I've found them to be too warm for my tastes. I haven't found a pair of Schoeller pants with full side-zips yet but if they made them that way, it would be ideal since you could vent them better. As far as the cut, I've used them for alpine rock climbs without any problems (i.e. the cuffs getting in the way) and also over ski boots (Dynafit Tourlite All Terrain). Over ski boots, the fit is really tight but since the fabric stretches, it usually accomodates them well enough. I'm 6'0", 180 lbs, 30" waist, 33" inseam to give an idea of what my body style is like and I think they fit me very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 My normal setup, no matter how cold, even down to -40F, is silkweight tops and bottom and then Cloudveil Symmetry pants and jacket. That's all I need. -40F? Bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana_Climber Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I sleep with a TNF Alpine 3D polarguard bag rated at +35F in most situations throughout the winter in Montana as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 but is this fabric too warm for summer alpine climbs in the cascades? Dave, yes, too warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I sleep with a TNF Alpine 3D polarguard bag rated at +35F in most situations throughout the winter in Montana as well. And you dry towels at 0F outside by body heat, too, right? I used to run wearing dryskinE pants and silkweight at 0F (fing rochester ). I was cold at the start of the run, and rarely broke a sweat. They are nice, but no piece of clothing has a 100 degree temperature range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 To each his own (temp wise) Dave, check out Ibex. They have wool mixed in with the Schoeller: Breathes well, durable, and warm. They have a couple different weights as well. www.ibexwear.com Buy direct or go to Feathered Friends or Second Ascent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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