Dru Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 opposing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaterfall Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Self assisted -ing is worse than having your draws face the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I'm a total paranoid when it comes to the hangar...I know I'll get made fun of for this but being a newbie, I'm still learning...so I'll sure I'll lighten up (literally) with experience....for the hangers, opposing is automatic....in addition, I replace the hangar end of one draw with a locking biner that fits thru the anchor and I also replace the rope end with a locker as well. So they both oppose, and I've got lockers thru the anchor as well as for the rope. 2 draws for the hangers...one for each clip. If you are saying you oppose locking biners on the rope end and then have locking biners opposed and connect to them for the rope to pass through you are not doing yourself any favor. What you have done is added two extra elements to your system that could fail, not that locking biners fail. My point is sometimes simpler is safer. The more complicated you make a system the more chances you create for error. If any of you can get a biner to disengage from a bolt with rope tension, then you have powers beyond mine for fuckin' up. For that matter if you can get the rope to dissengage from a set of correctly opposed draws on a top rope anchor, I suggest you give up climbing and take up water colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bDubyaH Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 this tree needs a happy little friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 back on track, what if you are using a "trad draw" ie shoulder sling, tripled up, instead of a sewn quickdraw. where the biner is free to move around. which way should they face then Definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 because i am directionaly challenged i keep mine going the same direction. that way i know when i am placing the draw i can gage the direction(this way everything is in one direction and i don't have to think twice ) that my fall my be and place the draw to "catch" my fall suposedly on the back of the beiner vs. the opening (excuse my lack of technical terms)... mostly because that is what i am used to. as long as you are not back clipped or z clipped you are in pretty good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowByrd Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm a total paranoid when it comes to the hangar...I know I'll get made fun of for this but being a newbie, I'm still learning...so I'll sure I'll lighten up (literally) with experience....for the hangers, opposing is automatic....in addition, I replace the hangar end of one draw with a locking biner that fits thru the anchor and I also replace the rope end with a locker as well. So they both oppose, and I've got lockers thru the anchor as well as for the rope. 2 draws for the hangers...one for each clip. If you are saying you oppose locking biners on the rope end and then have locking biners opposed and connect to them for the rope to pass through you are not doing yourself any favor. What you have done is added two extra elements to your system that could fail, not that locking biners fail. My point is sometimes simpler is safer. The more complicated you make a system the more chances you create for error. If any of you can get a biner to disengage from a bolt with rope tension, then you have powers beyond mine for fuckin' up. For that matter if you can get the rope to dissengage from a set of correctly opposed draws on a top rope anchor, I suggest you give up climbing and take up water colors. I'm not that dumb.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 [..] I suggest you give up climbing and take up water colors. Dude, you have no idea how much water colors can be dangerous. You could get *stained* . Or worse. drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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