Stavrogin Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 That news story is sure packed with information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 gotta be some of the worst "reporting" i've read in a while.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Hope Lambone is okay, sounds like he might have been up on NA wall alone. Fingers crossed. Â more info at supertopo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 That news story is sure packed with information. Maybe that's all the information that's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrov Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 "It certainly is a bona fide blizzard condition," said Mark Burger, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, AP reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 That news story is sure packed with information. Maybe that's all the information that's available. Â "They were dangling from a 3,200-foot sheer climbing face. Â El Capitan is among the world's best-known rock climbing spots." Â Top notch journalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 gotta be some of the worst "reporting" i've read in a while.. I know. We all expect much better from CNN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 But Fox News would have said, Â "Two Japenese Climbers died yesterday on El Cap, while President Bush was meanwhile working hard defending our freedom from terrorists." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 i for one would feel so much better knowing that the Shrub is working hard to defend the freedom of japanese climbers to freeze to death on el cap. where's fox's solid journalism when you need it. Â i hope that, in spite of horrors of bad journalism, YOSAR is able to help all those stuck in that crap weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 ...I hope Lambone is ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Can we please keep the spray out of this? Â Man, what a way to go. I hope Lambone is ok too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Yeah, 2 guys are dead, remember. A little respect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT_B Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 More info: Â http://www.fresnobee.com/home/local/story/9313779p-10220319c.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Here's a narrative from someone who had been in a similar situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 According to SuperTopo, Lambone is not dead, at least not on El Cap, at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 RIP. Â Seems the locals get a bit more respect around here when they pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002068417_webstorm20.html  this story mentioned there was a solo climber rescued. hope it wasn't lambone and if it was i'm glad it was a rescue not a recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 RIP. Â Seems the locals get a bit more respect around here when they pass. Â Yeah but the locals are more likely to have friends and family reading the site for news too. I mean - 50 people die on average in Chamonix every summer in mountaineering accidents and we don't memorialize each and every one of them. But if one of them was from the PNW we probably would. Â Dying of hypothermia on a big wall is slow and cruel. Not a good way to go. RIP Japanese climbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 The soloist was Dave Turner AFAIK. I think they just dropped him a rope and let him jug out, as he was only a couple of pitches from topping out on Tempest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Appropriate route to be on at that time, no? Glad he made it out ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I left the valley yesterday (wednesday) afternoon as the helicopter and SAR teams were conducting operations. They were hovering in front of the wall and communicating by bullhorn with parties on the wall. Dave Turner (or a rescuer?) was visible jugging lines to the rim as we were there. Apparently he is fine. Apparently several parties indicated a desire to keep climbing despite more rain in the forecast for the foreseeable future. I did not hear there were fatalities until today, but I must say I am not in the least bit surprised, especially if as reported the Japanese did not have a portaledge. Survival would have been impossible without it for so long. This storm was very intense. It began raining saturday night, poured sunday, abated somewhat on monday, but then all hell totally broke loose on Tuesday and it got much colder. Wednesday morning the temperature dropped about 10 degrees between 9AM and 10AM, snow began falling on the valley floor, and it snowed about 2-3 inches in less than 90 minutes. Although it's not unheard of for winter storms to hit in October, this one was quite strong for being so early and more like something you would see mid winter. There are reports of 4-5 feet of new snow above 6000 feet. 8 hikers still missing down south last I heard. FYI, those of you asking about Lambone; I met Matt several years ago briefly, although I can't say I remember his face exactly, I am quite sure that I saw him sitting in the Lodge cafeteria yesterday morning. I am also quite sure I didn't see anyone on the NA Wall yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Harris Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 8 hikers still missing down south last I heard. All hikers found and accounted for. A couple off Whitney, some from near Courtright Reservior, and the missing Yosemite (Ansel Adams Wilderness) hikers. The Japanese climbers the only fatalities, may they rest in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 So from what I can gather... they died from hypothermia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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