ryland_moore Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Iain, with all the money I saved swtiching to Stoneworks, I've got some extra cash to burn. Can ya hook a brotha up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 damn Iain! I hear ya.. but I had to open up my X business again, and I'm still broke! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaper_Jeffy Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Mmmm . . . Club Sport MILFs :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Where are these mythical clubsport milfs? Not in the climbing area, I assure you. Are they put in some corral in the evenings? If so, please tell me where this corral is, and when the stampede takes place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecircuit Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 I am making a change to the local offerings. Something is coming, its going to be BIG. Its coming this spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Love that avatar image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaper_Jeffy Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Where are these mythical clubsport milfs? Not in the climbing area, I assure you. Â Ah you need to go to some of the aerobics classes. Mornings and afternoons seem to have the highest concentrations. Also try some of the social functions like the coffee/book club. Â If you go at the right time it's like a MILF meat market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 OK Gary I have been a member for years but am really thinking about dropping my yearly membership for these reasons. Â 1) I can even pay on a visit by visit basis and save money 7 months out of the year. Â 2) When I can go in not having climbed in the gym for a month and still see the same problems and routes it makes me PISSED. Â 3) Yoga blows as your attendance to the classes prove. Free weights and a stairclimber/treadmill or two would be a larger investment but might ease my ire of the absorbadant price of the gym. Â 4) Of the years that I have been a member attending fairly regularly I have never been asked what I thought about the gym or even been spoken to by anyone who works there about making the gym better. Basically I don't feel any comraderie or loyalty. I don't really need this but if you want people to speak beneficially about your company, you should be trying to make the public feel welcomed and appreciated. Â Don't send the Gym Manager here to ask me to send emails. Its your business, you come to me. Fix it or rely on another demographic for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Oh, and unfortunately to pay for my membership I have had to outsourse my horsecock production facilities to SE Asian snafflehound sweatshops. Ever wonder why Kathy Lee is often seen in a "mink" coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Sometimes you have to give a little to do what you love. Sometimes you have to give a lot to love what you do. Keep the main picture in your head. Climbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Sometimes you have to give a little to do what you love. Sometimes you have to give a lot to love what you do. now there's something to think about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 BS hippie fluff. To be blown directly out the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Sometimes you have to do a little to give what you love... Â Sometimes you have to love a lot to do what you give... Â It's fun to string words together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Well, I've been climbing at PRG since it was over on 26 in Beaverton and I've followed Gary's 4-5 year saga to site/finance a new gym pretty closely and feel I owe it to him to see if things don't change a bit for the better. So I signed up for a month at PRG and will see if anything changes - I'm headed for Red Rocks (Epinephrine) when it runs out in mid-Nov. and then I'll decide what to do for the winter. I'm hoping to see things change a bit personally, but it could be that it is actually working for them from a business perspective and Gary actually has put everything on the line building this gym so that's cool too if that's the way it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 My only real complain is the cost. I'd gladly pay the extra if they had a full-on gym attached complete with free yoga and pilates classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Michael, Â That might be possible if Gary had partners or the gym was run by a larger corporation, but that's not the case and it only stands at all because Gary has proven himself capable of keeping his eye on the ball and doggedly pursuing the goal of a new gym for years. Attempt after attempt fell through either because the city or neighborhood blocked the siting of a new gym at a given locale. Gary dropped a LOT of coin on studies during those attempts to please the city and/or neighborhoods but to no avail. All the previous attempts were leasing with lease partners some of whom backed out. He finally just bought a piece of ground so he wouldn't be dependent on another flakey lease partner. He then ponied up everything he has in the world and then some to make the new PRG happen. If it doesn't succeed, he and his family will not fair well. He has, as the expression goes, "run it out" on this venue and that requires no less balls than it does on rock. So I'm inclined to cut him a lot of slack, even if I ultimately don't like the choices he makes relative to his business... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 Good for Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 a sad sappy story doesnt change shit. Either he’ll succeed or he’ll loose all his longtime customers and he’ll fail. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Thrill, Â On reviewing your posts I have to admit you say some great things in between the boorish comments like this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 that was nicely put. thanks. yeah guess it's a mood LOL peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 So gang, aside from the cost, which I'm guessing even Gary has only so much leeway in given the financing, any more suggestions that the PRG folks can actually do something about? I think I noticed an attempt at new bike racks so they must be listening. And there is at least a reasonable route up the overhang even if it isn't a total laptrack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 What about offering more weight equipment and cardio equipment? They charge more than any other gym in Portland, they should offer more than any other gym in Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 free studioworks for annual members. no wall reserving! equal leading routes to TR routes, mid-range lead routes, camera on the bike rack area, .... Â he just had a promo with his bouldering preview... and charged new people to come in.. lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 cardio cardio cardio. that place desperately needs cardio eqiup, but i doubt he'll put it in, because it costs $$. putting up a jug haul is free. actually getting your customers some equipment costs money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 All good feedback, I'd say keep it coming to them as something hits you... Â Bill and I will keep giving them reminders to check in on this thread no and then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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