Dr_Crash Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Among the MSR Coyote, SMC picket, and Yates Expedition picket, is one better than the others? They're all about the same price and weight (the Yates is a bit lighter). It looks like the Yates and the SMC will go in better because they have a pointed end. I'm leaning towards the Yates (poubnding surface and a pointed end that doesn't seem as threatening to my pack and body as the SMC). I have carried a borrowed Coyote but haven't used it, so I don't know how easy it is to pound in hard stuff. Any recommendation backed by experience? drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacely Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 (edited) Another thing about the Yates is that they pack closely together because of the L shape. 3 Yates will take up about the same space as a single T-shaped picket. Edited September 14, 2004 by spacely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bDubyaH Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 drC, i've used a number of pickets, and to be quite honest i don't have any preference, other than i hate carrying the 3 footers. i've never really noticed a difference with pointed ends or not (if it's really hard put in a screw). although the tops of some really get bashed up easily(soft aluminum). all that said i am having my buddy make me some for way cheaper, but he is a machinist at cannondale and has the tools to get the job done. my $0.02 buy the cheapest it doesn't make a difference which one you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 The Yates are not nearly as strong as the MSR. I'd want to have at least one MSR on my pack for crevasse rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 If you want a pointed end get out the hacksaw & file. Even if you have the tools (hacksaw, file & drillbit), if you have to pay for the Al stock it's cheaper to buy pickets unless you are making a bunch (and who needs a bunch of pickets) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 The Yates are not nearly as strong as the MSR. Catbirdseat, care to relate where you get your information or explain your thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 The Yates are not nearly as strong as the MSR. I'd want to have at least one MSR on my pack for crevasse rescue. Huh? I mean, HUH? What sort of snowpack are you placing your pickets in? Gleaming blue snowpack? Proud owner of a couple of those Yateses It doesn't matter one bit what type you get, so just pick the prettiest colors. Mine are orange! They brighten up the gear collection quite a bit, especially since they never leave the house. If you really have to be anal about it, the T shape is classic and does the job, the L shape has a packing benefit and packs the snow diagonally outwards which supposedly helps (but your buddies will place the picket backwards so nevermind), and the guards on the top of the picket actually make it live longer but only if you're hung up on not tearing apart the rest of the gear. Oh, and did I mention the pretty colors? Cost more though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 You'll only break a picket set as deadmen in very hard snow using powerful tackles and heavy loads. It is not really something to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I like yates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Pickets suck. Flukes suck. Just use rock pro. My two bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 bury your partner. especially if he is named yates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Either that or arrange for him to "misplace" his knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 I think it was Simpson's knife that Yates used to cut the rope. Oh the irony... drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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