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joekania

Climbers stuck on Glacier

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quote:

Originally posted by erik:

listen up gurlz go spray on some other topic....i m about to erase all your impertiant posts.......

 

thanks!

Get [Roll Eyes] off your high horse erik. I was just proving my point. don't get your panties in a bunch.

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Justed talked with someone in the know and it would appear that Lambone et al are all ok and on their way out.

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Originally posted by Rodchester:

[QB]Rescue under way on Glacier Peak

07/30/2002

 

The group consists of one man and two women, all of them in their 20's and experienced climbers. None of them were injured.

 

QB]

WTF??? Did they get hungry or something? They don't sound "experienced" to me. This kind of shit only fuels the fire for climbers needing to pay for rescues. If they aren't injured, maybe they should pay!

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Their "experience" might have told them to stay put rather than walk off onto the Scimitar in a white-out and high winds. The media usually gets it wrong at first report. Let's wait and see. Cell phone debate, though...

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Originally posted by iceguy:

Justed talked with someone in the know and it would appear that Lambone et al are all ok and on their way out.

Now that we know that they are ok, we need an answer to the following questions:

 

Who called for help, Lamebone or the girls when they found out it was more than a nickname?

 

Was there trouble keeping up the puptent?

 

Did someone call out the wrong name in his sleep?

 

Enquiring minds want to know.

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As a SAR guy, I'd much rather go rescue climbers who were smart enough to know that an attempted self-rescue would likely cause them more harm than just sitting tight, than dead climbers who though that they could push their luck.

 

I agree that this sounds dumb at first, just running out of food, and then phoning for help when a storm outlasts supplies, but shit happens; eventually, if a storm--an unexpected storm--lasts long enough, you’re going to run out of either food and/or water and need some help. It’s impossible to know for sure what the weather’s going to do, and is equally impossible to prepare (food, supplies, etc.) for every contingency; sometimes climbers, even "experienced" climbers, get whipped. From what I know about the situation so far, it sounds to me that Lambone acted as an “experienced” climber, in that he had humility enough to know when it was time to quit. And to reiterate, I'm glad that SAR is up there now helping him out unscathed, rather than searching from him because he never returned.

 

And screw them all who bitch about rescue costs--the Chinook pilots from Ft. Lewis told me that rescues prepare them better than any other training to defend this country—while they feel rescues are unfortunate, they welcome them as a chance to hone their skills. And, aside from the cost of the helicopter, when I’m on a rescue, most the gear, time off work, etc., I gladly pay for out of my own pocket.

 

[big Drink]

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just saw on the news that an army chinook chopper

has successfully brought the climbers' down the mountain.

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You've got a good number of days before food is the issue. water would be the concern.

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what the hell? I didn't do anything. Is that for 400 sprayposts or something? looks like I've got good company though. cheers.

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I agree this thing sounds a bit odd....but we should wait until Lambone is back and posts his version of the story before we go hanging him.

 

You can't actually trust the media and thier story on this type of thing.

 

Wait for Lambone and give him his chance. I'll bet there is more to this than meets the press. [big Drink]

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what the fuck difference does it really make?

the important thing is that they are alive.

give em' a fuckin' break, i'm sure they're none too happy about the whole deal.

just my .02 cents, but what do i know?

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quote:

Originally posted by trask:

what the fuck difference does it really make?

the important thing is that they are alive.

give em' a fuckin' break, i'm sure they're none too happy about the whole deal.

just my .02 cents, but what do i know?

hear hear trask!!!

 

you know enough to be reasonable when it calls for it!!! most of the time!

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The 2 times I went part way up in bad weather , there were way too many people going up anyways!!!

Its not the heat its the Stupidity!!

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I count myself with those who are very grateful these folks are safe, and withhold opinion. We really do not know the facts. Public speculation and criticism based on scraps of information that may or may not be true reflects poorly on us.

 

I will say that, to my knowledge, the unexpected and unpredicted bad weather moved in during Saturday night. For all I know, sensible decision making occured in response to conditions.

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Here we go...AGAIN. My buddies went thru this kinda crap when they had an unplanned bivy on Baker Memorial Day weekend. All the "experts" second guessing and passing judgement and saying why they were so stupid to get in trouble in the first place. If you weren't actually there w/ Lambone's party, then you don't have any idea what happened. So let's just shut up about it until he has a chance to give his story. The media doesn't know crap and don't convey the story very accurately, I found that out for sure back in May. [Wazzup]

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Yes, it was us.

 

The three of us feel very ashamed and embaressed to have brought on such a massive rescue effort. We would like to thank all the Rescuers who volounteered their time and energy to help us out of the crappy situation we got ourselves in.

 

Originaly we intended to let our families know we were ok, but stuck on the summit in gnarly weather. 911 was the only # that we could reach from our position. That "evil cell phone" call snowballed in to the rescue involving teams from four counties, chinooks, horses, the works...lets just say those guys don't mess around. When some one calls the go all out. Everyone is ok, and the sittuation was never of emergency circumstances.

 

I know I'm gunna get sprayed forever about this, and that is fine. Speculate as you will and enjoy, but after I go get a big cheeseburger I'll write up a report and let you all know exactly what happened up there. For your enertainment or only to help others from making the same mistakes. I hope no one ever has to spend 72 hours with three poeple in a wet I-tent.

 

Thankyou for your concern,

Gaper out.

 

Oh, and by the way, I didn't want to get on the damn chopper, but no one else wanted to walk down from Boulder Basin... [Razz]

 

[ 07-30-2002, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

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damned glad you're back safe, bone, ya wanker [big Drink][chubit]

 

[ 07-30-2002, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: trask ]

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