North Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I'm looking into 3 Finger Jack and can't find any recent conditions (or any that I find helpful). Has anyone been up recently or know of a good site to check? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I will assume you are referring to snow conditions? cc.com it thee site for that kind of info. I haven't seen any TRs recently, but TRs for recent climbs on peaks located geographically close do exist and should serve as a good guide to snow pack. Also consider pming gaper timmy...  As far as the route goes bring if you plan to traditionally lead things (the route does go at 5.0 so many solo): a few large nuts (10-13 BD or equivilant) 2-3 48" runners some monster slings (6-12') for slinging the larger choss and will be your rap anchor off the summit (don't forget your rap rings). If you need to purchase this or for future purchases: please buy natural colored webbing... no bright orange please. Also if you leave new webbing; write the month and year you left it in sharpie and remove all the old webbing and hike it out with you.  Post any other specific questions you have here. And remember... for the OR cascades: if you like a particular hold, take it with you… Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 took this from prouty point today, i'm guessing the road to jack lake is open, but from that pict you can see that there is still a good deal of snow up there... on the east side of sisters, snow was constant from 6300' and higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Thanks for the input, and the picture. Â We are prepared for a mix of conditions and I will post a TR when we return; we are looking at a 3:00am start on Saturday. Â Happy climbing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 North - did you make it up 3-Fingered Jack? What was the PCT like on the approach? Â I talked to the ranger last week and she made it sound like the trail was sketchy, with loose snags and sinkholes from last year's fire... Â Also, was there much snow on top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 fwiw we went up to Jack Lake last Saturday. There was no snow on the canyon creek meadows trail for the first 1.5 miles, very easy to get to the meadows, snow from there-on. This approach is quicker than the PCT approach, no threat of snags, just a nice easy traverse around the SE bowl to the normal ridge route, and it is very purdy in the meadows. i'll post a pict maybe, if you are all good boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 Yes, made it to the top but stupid work has been keeping me from putting up a TR. . .stupid work. Â Finding the trail on the way up was a bit tricky but once we could see the ridge we followed it the whole way. There were no tracks to follow and the PCT was sporadically marked as usual; encountered snow at 5700'. Â Once we got withing a few hundred vertical feet of the Crawl there was no more snow up to the top and it even prompted us to be lazy and take a 1 hour nap (see attachment) Â On the way down we followed the scree scar down to the snow to avoid the long trek along the ridge and had some more fun route finding. . . Â Only saw one other group of 2 climbers. Â All in all, a great time to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Did you see any debris from the plane wreck down near the scree scar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 There was some debris after getting on to the snow (peaking though near a small tree); the other two in my party were checking it out but I was a few hundred feet in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steepconcrete Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Nice. yo Timmay post some pice please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 canyon creek meadows is super secret corn stash, you must sign an NDA before you see my footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaper_Jeffy Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 canyon creek meadows is super secret corn stash, you must sign an NDA before you see my footage  Alas, Amar Andalkar already ousted that stash.  Soon it will be more popular then the SW Chutes of Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steepconcrete Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 wtf's a NDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rock Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 non-disclosure agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badvoodoo Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 A corporate pre-nup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 however, a corporate pre-nup that can really screw the individual... "we retain rights to anything you come up with, even on your own time using no ideas gained from us or using any of our resources". I always read those carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 however, a corporate pre-nup that can really screw the individual... "we retain rights to anything you come up with, even on your own time using no ideas gained from us or using any of our resources". I always read those carefully. I believe those have been found illegal, as long as your invention is not related to your current field - as are NCA's (Non Compete Agreement's)in California. Â NDA's are more a corporate pre-date agreement. You sign them before you have any serious discussion. "Hi, my name's John, if you'd like to find out anything more about me, please sign this agreement - oh, and it also says you can't tell your girlfriends how bad I was in bed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steepconcrete Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 no pics I am denied-> story of my life. how far from jack lake till you hit snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 sorry haven't been online much. i'm guessing you can hike pretty close to the meadows by now without hitting snow, 2.5-3 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steepconcrete Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 its all good, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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