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Best President in History?

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I vote for Teddy Roosevelt as well. Amazing man. In addition to preserving America's wilderness areas he also set aside wild bird sanctuaries to protect birds which were at the time being slaughtered for ladies hats. tongue.gif

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Warren Harding. Putting up the Nose, getting assassinated by an anarchist, drinking wine, and bolting cracks.

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FDR was one of the worst presidents in history. My vote goes to James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. pitty.gif

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Warren Harding. getting assassinated by an anarchist,

 

That was William McKinley

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Warren Harding. getting assassinated by an anarchist,

 

That was William McKinley

 

well what did harding die of then? liver failure i guess.

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My votes, in order:

 

Thomas Jefferson

Teddy Roosevelt

Abraham Lincoln

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I don't know who the best President is, but word on the street is that

"the best climber is the one having the most fun!".

Yeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

 

Then the best president is the one having the most fun?

 

Kennedy? Clinton?

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I don't know who the best President is, but word on the street is that

"the best climber is the one having the most fun!".

Yeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

 

Then the best president is the one having the most fun?

 

Kennedy? Clinton?

 

GOLLUM was the best President? That's what climbing splitters will do for ya.

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Best: Teddy Roosevelt or Jefferson.

 

Most underrated: Eisenhower.

 

I'd add LBJ to one of the most underrated. If only he didn't have that pesky vietnam thing. hellno3d.gifpitty.gif

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William Taft

 

 

Speaking of which, why do you suppose Taft shows up twice in MrE's picture?

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I'm pretty sure that glover cleaveland that shows up twice. He is the only prez to serve two non-consecutive terms. Taft came immediately after roosevelt, which is where his picture is.

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William Taft

 

 

Speaking of which, why do you suppose Taft shows up twice in MrE's picture?

 

Taft, BTW, was the last president to keep a milk cow at the White House.

 

p01-cow-butt.jpg

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William Taft

Taft is the only person to have served as President & Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He considered his time on the Supreme Court more important.

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William Taft

Taft is the only person to have served as President & Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He considered his time on the Supreme Court more important.

 

"Don't sit up nights thinking about making me President for that will never come and I have no ambition in that direction. Any party which would nominate me would make me a great mistake."

-WHT

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Pope has become quite the JFKerry cheerleader. I think that in the spirit of full disclosure, he should state - for the record - whether he is a paid campaign-Kerry official or on the payroll of the Wa State Democratik party. blush.gif If he isn't, he should just stop trying to relive his college-activism days and grow old gracefully.

 

Actually...I voted for Kerry...right before I voted against him. blush.gif

 

Gotta go! Teresa's here with the SUV and wants to get back to our multi-million dollar estate so she can ship some more Ketchup manufacturing jobs overseas before the sun comes up in China.

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No shit? Teresa is there? Oops, gotta go...Cheney is here and we gotta meet Scalia in an undisclosed duck blind in ANWR. We gotta hurry because Dick needs to go over those Halliburton no bids and KBR overcharges before the sun comes up on Iraq and he institutes the stop loss order.

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Ruth Bender Ginsburg is here and wants to discuss an upcoming case with a NOW representative right here on cc.com. Something about a speaking fee too. It's OK though, because everyone knows that liberals like RBG answer to a higher calling than those low-life republican conservatives. When she breaks protocol it must be for a very , very good reason.

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Fairweather, the first one was funny thumbs_up.gif the second one is kinda lame. Oh well, 50% is pretty good....better than what Shrub got in the election.

 

Who do you think was the most underrated?

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Allen Ginsburg is here and he says, "America"

 

 

America I've given you all and now I'm nothing.

 

America two dollars and twentyseven cents January 17, 1956.

 

I can't stand my own mind

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America when will we end the human war?

 

Go fuck yourself with your atom bomb.

 

I don't feel good don't bother me.

 

I won't write my poem till I'm in my right mind.

 

America when will you be angelic?

 

When will you take off your clothes?

 

When will you look at yourself through the grave?

 

When will you be worthy of your million Trotskyites?

 

America why are your libraries full of tears?

 

America when will you send your eggs to India?

 

I'm sick of your insane demands.

 

When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I

 

need with my good looks?

 

America after all it is you and I who are perfect not

 

the next world.

 

Your machinery is too much for me.

 

You made me want to be a saint.

 

There must be some other way to settle this argument.

 

Burroughs is in Tangiers I don't think he'll come back

 

it's sinister.

 

Are you being sinister or is this some form of practical

 

joke?

 

I'm trying to come to the point.

 

I refuse to give up my obsession.

 

America stop pushing I know what I'm doing.

 

America the plum blossoms are falling.

 

I haven't read the newspapers for months, everyday

 

somebody goes on trial for murder.

 

America I feel sentimental about the Wobblies.

 

America I used to be a communist when I was a kid

 

I'm not sorry.

 

I smoke marijuana every chance I get.

 

I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses

 

in the closet.

 

When I go to Chinatown I get drunk and never get laid.

 

My mind is made up there's going to be trouble.

 

You should have seen me reading Marx.

 

My psychoanalyst thinks I'm perfectly right.

 

I won't say the Lord's Prayer.

 

I have mystical visions and cosmic vibrations.

 

America I still haven't told you what you did to Uncle

 

Max after he came over from Russia.

 

I'm addressing you.

Are you going to let your emotional life be run by

Time Magazine?

I'm obsessed by Time Magazine.

I read it every week.

Its cover stares at me every time I slink past the corner

candystore.

I read it in the basement of the Berkeley Public Library.

It's always telling me about responsibility. Business-

men are serious. Movie producers are serious.

Everybody's serious but me.

It occurs to me that I am America.

I am talking to myself again.

 

Asia is rising against me.

I haven't got a chinaman's chance.

I'd better consider my national resources.

My national resources consist of two joints of

marijuana millions of genitals an unpublishable

private literature that goes 1400 miles an hour

and twenty-five-thousand mental institutions.

I say nothing about my prisons nor the millions of

underprivileged who live in my flowerpots

under the light of five hundred suns.

I have abolished the whorehouses of France, Tangiers

is the next to go.

My ambition is to be President despite the fact that

I'm a Catholic.

America how can I write a holy litany in your silly

mood?

I will continue like Henry Ford my strophes are as

individual as his automobiles more so they're

all different sexes.

America I will sell you strophes $2500 apiece $500

down on your old strophe

America free Tom Mooney

America save the Spanish Loyalists

America Sacco & Vanzetti must not die

America I am the Scottsboro boys.

America when I was seven momma took me to Com-

munist Cell meetings they sold us garbanzos a

handful per ticket a ticket costs a nickel and the

speeches were free everybody was angelic and

sentimental about the workers it was all so sin-

cere you have no idea what a good thing the

party was in 1835 Scott Nearing was a grand

old man a real mensch Mother Bloor made me

cry I once saw Israel Amter plain. Everybody

must have been a spy.

America you don't really want to go to war.

America it's them bad Russians.

Them Russians them Russians and them Chinamen.

And them Russians.

The Russia wants to eat us alive. The Russia's power

mad. She wants to take our cars from out our

garages.

Her wants to grab Chicago. Her needs a Red Readers'

Digest. Her wants our auto plants in Siberia.

Him big bureaucracy running our fillingsta tions.

 

That no good. Ugh. Him make Indians learn read.

Him need big black niggers. Hah. Her make us

all work sixteen hours a day. Help.

America this is quite serious.

America this is the impression I get from looking in

the television set.

America is this correct?

I'd better get right down to the job.

It's true I don't want to join the Army or turn lathes

in precision parts factories, I'm nearsighted and

psychopathic anyway.

America I'm putting my queer shoulder to the wheel.

 

Allen Ginsberg, Berkeley, January 17, 1956

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